Gentec Compact Torches and Small Torches

Hey guys,

After months of working out a deal with Gentec, I have finalized a deal to become the distributor for their products in the glass industry. What this means is I will be offering their products at the absolute lowest prices for people in the glass industry. I have just received my first shipment of Compact torches, Small torches and other accessories.

The Small torch is their version of the Smith Little torch, and all Smith tips fit on this handle. It comes with 5 tips, 12' hoses, and has a chrome plated brass body with stainless steel gas tubes. I can do The Small Torch for $110 + shipping, the best price you will be able to find on this item.


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The Compact Torch has the same handle but a slightly different collar that fits larger tips on it. It provides more gas flow because the tips on them are a larger diameter. The tips are also longer which is nice. They use a double o-ring configuration instead of a compression fitting for better leak proof protection. This thing is not a toy. It comes with 4 tips: #4, #6, a 4 hole (which is awesome for a little more firepower), and a twin tip. It also has 12' hoses and a chrome plated brass body with stainless steel gas tubes. I personally love this torch. I can do this torch for $155 + shipping, which is also the best price you will see on this really hard to find torch.

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Here is a side by side comparison of the two torches with tips:

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I will be offering other Gentec items as well, (regulators, quick connects, flashback arrestors, gas savers, etc.) but the limited stock I ordered of these items with this first shipment is already gone. Feel free to contact me if you have any questions about the Gentec product line. Wholesale orders are welcome, please contact me if you are interested in selling these products in your store.

I am waiting on my Vendor's badge then I will be posting these threads in the appropriate section, thanks for looking!

Good stuff

I've seen a compact torch, I didnt have a mini to compare to but it looked like the tip holes were not much larger then the mini. Could you post up some flame pics?

These are American made?

I own a Gentec Compact, it's a solid hand torch. Are you able to sell just the tips for the compact?

I love my gentec. wouldnt want to work without it. for those of you that dont have a pinner hand torch. get one.

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Originally Posted by AlexSchmalex

I've seen a compact torch, I didnt have a mini to compare to but it looked like the tip holes were not much larger then the mini. Could you post up some flame pics?

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Yes, the tip holes are very similar if not the same in size. The Compact however can throw out a much larger more stable flame than The Small torch, while still going down to a micro size. I am pretty sure this is because more gas can pass through the larger diameter shaft of The Compact's tip.

I will throw some flame shots up of it as soon as possible. (Either tonight or tomorrow morning)

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Originally Posted by neddowerx

These are American made?

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Gentec's HQ is in Chino, CA where they do their R&D and design. They have their products made in China so they can use the best materials while keeping their prices as competitive as they are.

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Originally Posted by Twist

I own a Gentec Compact, it's a solid hand torch. Are you able to sell just the tips for the compact?

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Yeah I can get you tips, PM me and I can get you some on the next shipment.

the compact was where its at. I drill the tip out. i run a ton of o2 pressure through mine with no blow out.

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Originally Posted by aLLsTyLEs541

Yeah I can get you tips, PM me and I can get you some on the next shipment.

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Very nice, thanks... Pm sent

Yo buddy will you have one of these compact sets at the DFO? If so can you set one aside for me and I can pick it up there?

What is everything you need to get that compact running? How long does it take to get one shipped with everything? That thing is super sexy.

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Originally Posted by VertigoGlass

Yo buddy will you have one of these compact sets at the DFO? If so can you set one aside for me and I can pick it up there?

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Yeah Vertigo, I am gonna have these in the booth there, I got you fo sho.

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Originally Posted by ROGUE

What is everything you need to get that compact running? How long does it take to get one shipped with everything? That thing is super sexy.

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All you need is a lighter and a dream Rogue... Really though, all you need to do is y into your existing set up and your ready to go.

I usually ship these the same day they are ordered, next business day at the latest if ordered late in the day.

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Originally Posted by aLLsTyLEs541

Yeah Vertigo, I am gonna have these in the booth there, I got you fo sho.



All you need is a lighter and a dream Rogue... Really though, all you need to do is y into your existing set up and your ready to go.

I usually ship these the same day they are ordered, next business day at the latest if ordered late in the day.

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Oh really? They run the same pressures?

I was wondering the same thing mike, as I was looking at these I thought do I run it at the same pressure as I run my lynx (20 oxy - 5 pro). I'm don't have any experience with these hand torches but now that I'm doing more and more welds I could definitely see the benefit of having one.

I run my gentec compact with a #4 tip drilled out to 1/16 at 15 psi propane and 65-70 psi o2 without any flame blow out. I can post a range of flame pics if needed.

Do they make a triple? I have a Y with 2 torches on it already. Maybe I just need a lil 20 or 60 O2 tank.

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Originally Posted by ROGUE

Oh really? They run the same pressures?

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The recommended pressures is lower than we run at the bench, but they work fine off a y. Most of the people I know run their micros off a y.

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Originally Posted by chillrelaxglass

Do they make a triple? I have a Y with 2 torches on it already. Maybe I just need a lil 20 or 60 O2 tank.

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Slap another y on one of the outlets of your first y and you got a threesome.

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Originally Posted by VertigoGlass

I run my gentec compact with a #4 tip drilled out to 1/16 at 15 psi propane and 65-70 psi o2 without any flame blow out. I can post a range of flame pics if needed.

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I have seen one of these in action after Vertigo gave advice about it, rager flame and literally impossible to blow out.

Sounds great man, I'll definitely be picking one up sooner now. I honestly thought you had to have an entirely independent system running a compact.

I run my CC at 5 and 25. Should be good then?

What are you using to drill? Something more precise than a cordless drill im guessing? I'd like yo see pics if your willing. Our shop has been looking for something bigger than our little torches and smaller/easier handle-ability than a national. Have checked out the smith "aircraft" torch but havent pulled the trigger b/c we can't see one running, Kevlar hoses are a major plus....

Here are some flame shots, you can see that the flame on The Compact can go larger than the Small Torch. It still retains it's ability for a pinpoint flame as well, I would describe the flame as more "laser like". Both flame shots are of the two torches turned up to their largest stable flame, each with a #6 tip. Threw a couple shots of the 4 hole tip in there as well.


Small Torch:

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Compact Torch:

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4 Hole Tip on Compact

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wow looks the goods.. flames longer than my bravo lol.

I paid 69 bucks for my gen tech a few years ago man has the price jumped for glassblowers

^^^^ They must have. When I bought mine about a year ago, it's the same set up as Allstyles is selling (the small, not the compact), and it was $115 with shipping, and I searched for that deal for a while. I think his price is pretty fair, and it's awesome to be able to support a fellow glassblower and not some faceless jewelry supply company.

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Originally Posted by jr23

I paid 69 bucks for my gen tech a few years ago man has the price jumped for glassblowers

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I have never seen The Small Torch below $110, where did you get such a deal? I thought $110 was lower than any other place but after searching a little bit I see there is a supplier that is matching that price. Most are still selling in the $120 range though.

I still haven't found anybody that can beat my price on The Compact though...

or you can go on fleabay and get a Hardin for about $35.

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Those Hardin's and other torches rebranded from the same factory have had multiple reports of serious issues. There is a reason they are $35... Personally, something that is involved in the combustion of gases in my hand is something I don't want to go the ultra cheap route on, but that is just me.

But then again, this is not a thread about Hardin Torches, so um yeah...

and i'm sure that there are just as many if not more people who've had good luck with them. so long as it doesn't leak, it's ok by me.
so, um, yea. back on topic.

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Originally Posted by istandalone24/7

and i'm sure that there are just as many if not more people who've had good luck with them. so long as it doesn't leak, it's ok by me.
so, um, yea. back on topic.

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Gentecs are well worth the money. you really do get what you pay for. yeah your 35 hardin may work ok for the time being, but with cut rate plastic parts and inferior construction, you'll see problems eventually. just like the knock off ones they sell at harbor freight. my buddy bought one, took it ot of the box, iooked over the hose connections and knobs, and immediatley returned it. its like a bic lighter with an oxy input. no thanks.

Ill take one gentec over 3 knockoff any day of the week.

I just received another shipment from Gentec, and I will have these for sale at my booth at the DFO (Area 541) among other fun things for people to ball out with. My booth is next to the green room, so no excuse for not being by it. Come holler at me and introduce yourself, there is still a lot of you I haven't met yet.

I picked up one of these gentec torches from Eric (allstyles)... it's awesome. It seems like it's well built, lights easily and as he says you literally can't make the flame blow out. I have a drilled out tip like the one guy mentioned above and have used that mainly. It works perfect for welds. I'm just getting into glass blowing but i can tell already that i'm going to use the hell out of this thing. now i just need to figure out a way to attach it to my bench... a magnet perhaps.

Ahreno I'm pretty sure gentec makes a base mounted stand as well as a hook style bench mount. Hit Eric up he will have their catolog and be able to find it.

This is my favorite tool for lighting the torch:

http://www.contenti.com/products/soldering/110-416.html
(This is a lighter, it sits on the base in the next link) - $26.90
Uses a battery and when you touch the torch to the outer metal bars, it sparks in the center and the torch lights. I can light my Gentec with one hand using this setup.

http://www.contenti.com/products/soldering/114-263.html
(This works on all the Gentecs he sells) - $17.77

Killer price on the Gentecs, I'll pick up the compact from you for bench space #3 later next month.

(yay, first post, longtime lurker, just never had anything useful to contribute)

I have had quite a few inquiries about Gentecs this week, and just wanted to let everyone know I should be getting my next shipment by the end of next week. I completely sold out of stock at the DFO (which was surprising because I brought a lot of stock, thanks everyone!), and the HQ is backed up so my lead time has been longer than normal this time. I will update as soon as I have torches in stock. If anyone has any interest in any gas handling equipment, i.e. flashbacks, regulators, quick connects, gas savers, hoses or anything else that I normally don't order, now would be a good time to place an order for those items - I could get them for you by the end of next week. Gentec expects to be able to ship by Monday or Tuesday.

Thanks again for all the support!

I had some friends over after the DFO and they put the gentec to use... we mounted it to the table and used it for some really tight reversals as well as using it to finish up welds... My friend even made a dome out of electric blue velvet on it just to see if he could... everyone agreed the torch was pretty bad ass. Be careful if you drill out the tip like most people do as mine has a slight V in the flame which can introduce a cool spot... haven't had any issues with it but just thought i should mention it.

Eric, I sent you a PM. I still need that #7 tip for the compact please, if you were able to score one. Thanks.

Yeah Twist,

I can get one in my next order. I will PM you with pricing.

Gentec shipment has arrived. I now have Compact torches and Small torches back in stock! I have sent a PM to all the members who were waiting.

Hey I got it off eBay and now that I think about it they were more on the buy it now .
The dude had a few on reg bidding and I watched it and got it.
But I need one of those 155 dollar kits you got.

You used to sell china black spayed at CBS and the tube to sleeve it.
I see ust has black on sale now and would like to see if we can work out a bulk deal.

I have 1 small torch, and 2 Compacts left on this shipment. These torches have been going quick, thanks to all who have supported me!

Can we buy different tips from you for the compact? I know you can get shelbo tips for the little, is this true for the compact?