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    Default Low cost manifolds (DIY)

    Hi Folks.

    In the past people have asked how we set up the manifolds under all of our benches. Below is a diagram for low cost manifolds (mainly parts from Lowes or Home Depot) in which you could just cut a hose anywhere and insert these in with a couple of hose clamps.

    I hope this helps some of you!

    Tom

    BTW- The propane and oxygen fittings (that the regulators plug into) are available through your gas supplier.


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    I wish I could rep you for this, but I gotta spread it around some more. However, this is definitely a knowledge rep worthy post.
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    Hey, that's how I built my manifold. Easy peazy and it allows me to have shut off valves for my hand torches.

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    I built mine like this too but had troubles finding the npt to oxy and npt to prop parts. Where do you guys get em?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forche View Post
    I built mine like this too but had troubles finding the npt to oxy and npt to prop parts. Where do you guys get em?
    Try the welding shop, if not try doing a search for western enterprises.

    I have a similar system but I have quick connects at the end of everything and don't have the shutoff valves.
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    The gas/oxygen parts are called "B" fittings.

    You'd probably want a Western Enterprise P/N (#xx) (also Radnor):

    #33 - 1/4 NPT to B LH (fuel gas)
    #32 - 1/4 NPT to R RH (Oxygen)

    These are listed in the Western Enterprises and Radnor catalogs under Fittings / A,B,C,D / REGULATOR OUTLET BUSHINGS

    You can get them from any welding or pipe fitting supplier that sells welding fittings.

    They shouldn't be more than a buck or two each.
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    Last edited by daveabr; 04-03-2012 at 10:34 AM.



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    Oh oh,

    totally unrelated, but do you happen to carry the hose barb fitting for the air inlet on Herbert Arnolds? I need one. It is just like the fitting on the torch end of the HA regulator except the threads are reversed.

    Please say you have one.

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    I don't use B fittings on the ends. I purchased the fittings that mimic your gas bottles so you can screw a regulator directly into the manifold.

    During AGI when we have 20 torches on one line alone, I use a main reg at the tank and charge the line to 60 or 80 pounds. Individual work stations can use the regs on the manifold to set any pressure they want.

    I forgot the name of the regulator fittings, but if you tell your gas company what you want to do they will get you what you need.

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    Wow guess i didn't really look that hard then. Thanks for the replys- the welding shops didn't carry em so I had to make a couple with saws and welding - fun fun fun. Then I see there a buck from ABR
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    Default Re: Low cost manifolds (DIY)

    We don't have any actual "Herbie" parts from Arnold, but I think the air hose is a 1/4" barb.



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    Nope.

    It is metric, and it is a lot bigger than 1/4inch.

    Too bad. Guess I have to order one from Germany.

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    Default Re: Low cost manifolds (DIY)

    The gas ones are, but the barb for the air hose, which is measured by it's id, is for sure 1/4" I even just put a tape measure to one to be sure.

    If you are talking about the hose barb for the oxy, it's much bigger



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    I don't think we are talking about the same thing here. My air intake (lower one, right hand side when viewed from behind the torch) is way bigger than my oxy intake. Maybe it is different on the new torches but I don't see why it would be.

    Are you mixing the air and the oxy intakes up? Luft is air, the bottom one, which should be the same size as the gas (at least the male part is if you take the barb off).

    Also, these are German, and they use the metric system, so none of the fittings are 1/4 inch. The ID of the oxy hose barb on my torch is 5mm, or about .2 inches.

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    I'm using 3/8 hose on my old style Herbie for air. Do you have the nut and just need a barb?
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    Edit

    Wait, I think I know what you are using. So I can just get a 3/8 inch female with hose barb and use that even though the the male part on the torch is a b style fitting (meaning the ball and cup parts are compressed together)?

    If that is the case then sweet, thanks for the info.
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    Default Re: Low cost manifolds (DIY)

    OK, I just got the part number for the regulator fittings:

    Item Number: B-42 - WESTERN ADAPTER CGA510 X 1/2NPTM

    Item Number: B-52 WESTERN ADAPTER CGA540 X NPTM

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    Not only, but also...
    It ain't where you're from, it's where you're at.
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    whoops, sorry, i did have them mixed up.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wonka View Post
    I don't use B fittings on the ends. I purchased the fittings that mimic your gas bottles so you can screw a regulator directly into the manifold.

    During AGI when we have 20 torches on one line alone, I use a main reg at the tank and charge the line to 60 or 80 pounds. Individual work stations can use the regs on the manifold to set any pressure they want.

    I forgot the name of the regulator fittings, but if you tell your gas company what you want to do they will get you what you need.

    Tom
    I have worked at a propane/gas grill place on n off for the last few years.
    The male portion that screws into the bottle is called a POL fitting (if threads inside the valve) or Acme nut if outside, hand tighten deal. The other part is just called Female POL which works for both of the male mentioned because the reg POL goes inside threads, the ACME goes on the outside threads.

    http://www.amazon.com/Heater-F273791.../dp/B005R21ROO

    Im sure there is a better place than amazon to get them, just wanted to put up a link.

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