I feel like I got hooked up by ABR

**Dom** · 10-09-2015, 12:25 PM

lol that is all.. love peace and happiness

**VinE** · 10-09-2015, 01:04 PM

I use them as a last resort, and don't expect much, so when the glass comes half broken I'm not dissapointed. They have built their business on cornering the import Asian glass market, and offering cutthroat deals that basically have killed all the mom n pops bottom line in the industry. You can rationalize buying from them any way you want, but make no doubt about it they care less about lamp workers and the scene at large than making a profit. They are a corporation type business that was started by a guy who allegedly was importing glass and setting up sweatshops in countries without laws (basically killing the u.s. prodo market in '00's) If you expect anything from them expect them to follow the $$ and they will take the shortest route there. What they promote is for their profit, not for the good of the industry.

**unfunraygun** · 10-09-2015, 01:57 PM

I try to avoid politics as much as possible. However I do not support Asian sweat shop labor, and for that reason alone I have never purchased or supported business with ABR.

**Nomad** · 10-10-2015, 06:51 AM

I used to buy Euromax glass and Corning too. Both made is Asia.
No proof it is all sweatshops.

**Nomad** · 10-10-2015, 06:52 AM

I have seen sweatshops and even been stuck in one.

**Nomad** · 10-10-2015, 07:00 AM

No I was referring to California.

**Nomad** · 10-10-2015, 07:08 AM

Hey man I got $4000 in orders out of the shed right now.

**istandalone24/7** · 10-10-2015, 08:07 AM

And takes pics of the same pipes over and over saying how busy you are.

**Nomad** · 10-10-2015, 08:22 AM

My orders are the same 5 pieces over and over again. I got 4 orders I am working on.

**330G** · 10-10-2015, 08:41 AM

lol 10 comments on the thread and Nomad has made 5. the double double post haha. na but really. Dave from Abr already said in another thread he hooks nomad up. Nomad said he was paying $2.30 a pound for asian color from them. And with the 40% off sale most of the color was $10 a pound. So that just shows you why anytime someone says something bad about abr nomad is there to shit all over their thread.

**Swim** · 10-10-2015, 08:45 AM

I have never ordered from ABR. that being said, everyone should be glad there are multiple distributors to compete and provide folks with shit. Nothing is ever perfect. I would switch to abr for those prices nomad is getting. I am paying the standard at mountain, and I cant complain about those guys at all. Glad I can source things like this easy. Glad i can buy that asian tube

**Nomad** · 10-10-2015, 08:49 AM

To be specific. I got a 100 lbs box shipped to me for $230 shipping included. For clear and a few pounds color rod and a few colored tubes.

**harpentuan** · 10-10-2015, 09:51 AM

Shine on you crazy diamond!

**Firekist** · 10-10-2015, 11:12 AM

like that one order i got over 20 pounds of free color? yup.. all american color. ns and tag. they didn't want me to send it back, because i did indeed offer.. twice. i've never had my glass be smashed up through abr. 13+ years of orders.
any small issue that has happened has been taken care of, or went away. my .02

**rvp117** · 10-10-2015, 11:42 AM

I deal with abr pretty much exclusively. Because they have killer sales, because they stock a wide variety of products which enables me to buy everything at one store. I have had issues with quality control on a couple tools I've purchased, and they quickly resolved that issue and refunded me. They have always sent me shipping labels for return shipping. I've never had to pay for return shipping. I have always been treated right by their customer service employees that is why they will continue to get my business.

Just my experience with them from when I first became a lampworker 3 years ago.

**Nomad** · 10-10-2015, 11:48 AM

I go to other places also. Such as:
Aim kilns
Blast shield marvers
Carlo Dona tools
Corning
Digital controllers
If they had it I would have gotten them there.....