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    Not good. This is one of the reasons why Schott moved a lot of their glass manufacturing back to Germany and why Corning shut down it's large-scale plant. For them, it was arsenic, barium, and lead.

    Heavy metals are a bitch on the environment and the body. I forsee some regulatory changes coming in Oregon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike_Aurelius View Post
    Not good. This is one of the reasons why Schott moved a lot of their glass manufacturing back to Germany and why Corning shut down it's large-scale plant. For them, it was arsenic, barium, and lead.

    Heavy metals are a bitch on the environment and the body. I forsee some regulatory changes coming in Oregon.
    So, do they have more lax rules in Germany? Or just better/different manufacturing processes, therefore, less impact on the environment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shawnette View Post
    So, do they have more lax rules in Germany? Or just better/different manufacturing processes, therefore, less impact on the environment?
    Both. At one time, Corning moved everything to Brazil, where there are no rules of any kind. That plant closed about 10 years ago (?) and all manufacturing of optical blanks is now done in France. Fiber optic glass and other specialty glass is still made in NY.

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    Look out fuming here we come...

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    What does fuming have to do with heavy metals? Why would you feel the need to add that comment to this thread? Do you have something to day or do you just have a need muddy the water everywhere?

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    What does fuming have to do with heavy metals? Why would you feel the need to add that comment to this thread? Do you have something to day or do you just have a need muddy the water everywhere?
    I appreciate your attempts to insult me. Sometimes i get a little carried away.

    I was saying if all the color companies in the US dried up and everyone had to go back to fuming exclusively. I realize that bullseye isn't boro(i think) but was just being extreme. My apologies if i muddied up your water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LooseSeal Baller View Post
    I appreciate your attempts to insult me. Sometimes i get a little carried away.

    I was saying if all the color companies in the US dried up and everyone had to go back to fuming exclusively. I realize that bullseye isn't boro(i think) but was just being extreme. My apologies if i muddied up your water.
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    Uh-oh, that sounds like a shit-storm in the making for Bullseye, even if they were technically in compliance with gov't regs. I hope they survive the fallout. (No pun intended.) Flat glass users had better stock up on the red, orange, yellow color range right now. There's no question that Mike is right about regulation changes coming to Oregon soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brads View Post
    Uh-oh, that sounds like a shit-storm in the making for Bullseye, even if they were technically in compliance with gov't regs.[...snip]
    Shit-storm indeed...

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    Wow. Just wow.

    I can't believe it took 3 years to find the "source" of the cadmium pollution.

    Bullseye melting glass for over 40years. Soil tests are going to be wild.


    I still wish I had more info about what WE all get exposed to.
    Most of us melting these chemicals on the daily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoRo View Post
    I still wish I had more info about what WE all get exposed to.
    Most of us melting these chemicals on the daily.
    This brings up a question I posted in another thread which no one ever answered. When reading the older GA literature (ca. 2003) I saw they talk about wearing a HEPA mask when working with many of their colors. When I came across the newer GA literature (ca. 2007) they only mentioned HEPA once, when talking about silver. Given that the 2003 literature had numerous references to wearing a HEPA mask with many of their colors, I was curious as to what changed during those four years.

    Does anyone know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oneiros View Post
    This brings up a question I posted in another thread which no one ever answered. When reading the older GA literature (ca. 2003) I saw they talk about wearing a HEPA mask when working with many of their colors. When I came across the newer GA literature (ca. 2007) they only mentioned HEPA once, when talking about silver. Given that the 2003 literature had numerous references to wearing a HEPA mask with many of their colors, I was curious as to what changed during those four years.

    Does anyone know?
    my best guess would be that color was still a pretty new territory in 2003. just a guess though.

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    *Hopes for huge Borosilicate facility to move to New Mexico where we don't care about pollution!
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    This a big deal in a way but just about any form of manufacturing puts out fumes,unseen particulate or chemical material waste. They just happen to find this.

    If testing was wide spread they would find every auto shop, paint shop, machine shop, foundry is loaded with foul elements that would virtual shut down a large number of industries.

    My point is if you dig deep enough you can find toxins just about everywhere. Will live in a big toxic waste dump.

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    This a big deal in a way but just about any form of manufacturing puts out fumes,unseen particulate or chemical material waste. They just happen to find this.

    If testing was wide spread they would find every auto shop, paint shop, machine shop, foundry is loaded with foul elements that would virtual shut down a large number of industries.

    My point is if you dig deep enough you can find toxins just about everywhere. Will live in a big toxic waste dump.
    pretty much. doesn't look like there's much they can do about it other than some articles like this, either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snoopdog6502 View Post
    This a big deal in a way but just about any form of manufacturing puts out fumes,unseen particulate or chemical material waste. They just happen to find this.

    If testing was wide spread they would find every auto shop, paint shop, machine shop, foundry is loaded with foul elements that would virtual shut down a large number of industries.

    My point is if you dig deep enough you can find toxins just about everywhere. Will live in a big toxic waste dump.

    There are different degrees of toxicity. It's unlikely you'll find many auto or machine shops pumping much arsenic and cadmium into the air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brads View Post
    There are different degrees of toxicity. It's unlikely you'll find many auto or machine shops pumping much arsenic and cadmium into the air.
    Nope, but they do occasionally get fined for just dumping used fluids where they shouldn't be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brads View Post
    There are different degrees of toxicity. It's unlikely you'll find many auto or machine shops pumping much arsenic and cadmium into the air.
    Worse, they condemn the site from oils and solvents leaching into groundwater, haul off a few hundred tons of soil and fine the employer $2,000,000.00. It happened at A place I worked was moved for the new Us Army Corp of Engineers building site.

    The toxins will vary, place to place. you could test storm drains find any and all crud that gets washed into them. Much of the airborne stuff will end up in the water sooner or later.

    Iv had EPA come around workplaces and find traces of solvents and cutting oils from products just sitting outside that get rained on, seriously nasty stuff for the environment.

    My point being is you can find toxins everywhere is you look. It would be great if every precaution was taken to minimize detrimental impact.

    Even something as theoretically inert as farming, chemicals used end up in our water and food.

    Im a green tree hugger but not to an unrealistic extreme though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snoopdog6502 View Post
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    My point being is you can find toxins everywhere is you look. ...[snip]
    As far as I can see, your point is still pointless in the context of this thread about Bullseye's troubles with arsenic and cadmium in the air near their facility.

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