steaks thread - progression

**Lurch** · 09-24-2010, 10:06 AM

your progressing very nicely man! Those marbles and last batch of slide look really nice!

**El Puck** · 09-24-2010, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by steak351

hi my new torch just arrived, i gotta little cleaning to do and i plan to paint it in a new color so it looks new

herbert arnold 40mm psl

kind regards frank

Whats up,...Welcome to the club,......I have one myself and I'd have to say it's not terrible.

**kirill** · 10-07-2010, 09:42 AM

dope!

**steak351** · 10-12-2010, 01:37 AM

hi i got some new pics of some stuff

some slides, marbles,...

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**steak351** · 10-12-2010, 01:41 AM

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hope you like it

kind regards frank

**steak351** · 10-18-2010, 10:54 PM

i made a glowrod and some stuff this sunday hope you like it

glowrod

ruby red 18.8 pushbowl

ruby red 18.8 oil dome
(need to make matching nails)

and my first vortex marble, diameter is ca 4cm, i fucked up the center termination while encasing in clear

i really like making marbles i want to buy some more marble molds now

kind regards frank

**hashmasta-kut** · 10-18-2010, 11:10 PM

more, i need to get any

nice stuff man.

**steak351** · 10-19-2010, 12:51 AM

ha i only have one

**steak351** · 10-25-2010, 10:40 PM

i had not much time but here are a few things i made this friday morning, i hope you like it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cVqF4zS49M

kind regards frank

**steak351** · 10-27-2010, 11:29 PM

hi , i have a question maybe someone could answer me that

i have been making lots of slides lately and now i saw a pic that confuses me i always made the section then added the ground joint, then i pulled of the blowtube from the section and added a horn or a handle then i pop the hole and push

i saw a fully finised slide still on the blowtube, the in the next pic it was welded onto the ground joint, and the connection was so flawless like machine made, so how is this done grab the bowl with a grabber and weld the ground joint to it?

and how do i get a really clean connection

only through practice?
or am i doing something different

how do you get those super clean welds between the ground joint and the bowl?

kind regards frank

**hashmasta-kut** · 10-28-2010, 06:26 AM

probably just rotating each part in the flame, perfect sizing before joining, just the right amount of heat, and a little puff just after connecting. probably give it another few rotations in the flame before puffing, after touching. then a little pull to reduce the puff section to standard diameter.

oh yah, and the practice part for sure too

**steak351** · 10-28-2010, 06:53 AM

do you make the whole slide with push and hole on the blowtube then grab it with grabbers and tear of the blowtube and attach the ground joint?

i need to practice butt seals i think thats what they are called, i can make some goog ones but not perfect

ughh practice yeah

**TheGlassTree** · 10-29-2010, 01:09 PM

You add your horn/handle before you push the bowl?? I always do that after I push the bowl....

**STROKER** · 10-29-2010, 01:32 PM

it is so funny how many different ways there are to do the same thing.
i have been on a face/monster slide kick lately and i have personally found it easiest to do all my attachments before i push the bowl.
i like to still have air pressure when i attach big solid horns as i use the blowtube to slightly blowout the connection between the horn and bowl. i like the look of it pulled out a bit,and it allows me to get the connection quicker with less heat time. that means less chance of messing up other parts with details.

when it comes to connecting the art to the ground joint. i have been leaving an extra 1/4 inch of length over the desired look to allow for condensing of the thin glass the joints come on.

i spot heat with a pinpoint flame and do opposite sides first. once i made it around the circle and know its is melted solid, i then make it a bit fluffier flame and gently heat the entire weld while constantly rotating.
pull out of flame and give a second or so before you puff ever so gently to even wall out.

from there i pop hole/ push bowl and put away in kiln.

as for the how to hold it. i use graphite glass joint tool and for the actual art that i am attaching, i use a hot sealed punty. i dont like working with grabbers for the time it takes to make all the work. just melt off the hot seal before the hole pop and go with it.

i am for sure no expert, but this works well for me.

**steak351** · 10-30-2010, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by 331 stroker

1 -

i like to still have air pressure when i attach big solid horns as i use the blowtube to slightly blowout the connection between the horn and bowl. i like the look of it pulled out a bit,and it allows me to get the connection quicker with less heat time. that means less chance of messing up other parts with details.

2-

when it comes to connecting the art to the ground joint. i have been leaving an extra 1/4 inch of length over the desired look to allow for condensing of the thin glass the joints come on.

3-

i spot heat with a pinpoint flame and do opposite sides first. once i made it around the circle and know its is melted solid, i then make it a bit fluffier flame and gently heat the entire weld while constantly rotating.
pull out of flame and give a second or so before you puff ever so gently to even wall out.

from there i pop hole/ push bowl and put away in kiln.

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to number one and 3 i do it the same way , but i did not understand what you ment with number two, do you condense the thin groundjoint tube thicker?

i noticed that my arms are sometimes a little bit off center and the so is the connection/weld between the ground joint and the bowl , i need to pay more attention to it i think and be in general more calm and not so exited while doing the last finishing steps..

kind regards frank

**berning** · 10-30-2010, 08:15 AM

Originally Posted by steak351

be in general more calm and not so exited while doing the last finishing steps.

that'll help alot

**hashmasta-kut** · 10-30-2010, 08:18 AM

your welds look pretty fly on this page frank.

**STROKER** · 10-30-2010, 08:35 AM

first i agree with hmk that your joints do look nice and smooth.

my #2 above implies that i actually heat and ever so slightly compress the joint and slide together while givin a once again ever so slight puff of air to even things back out.

i do alot of off axis welds so i can relate to that part making it tougher but this is when i especially do just small sections at a time and work my way around the perimeter.

i find that my slide is usually very thick compared to the joint's glass and if i do it this way it makes for a nice heavy and more even walled slide .

seriously it looks like you have it already on the smaller stuff you are showing.
they are nicely done.

**steak351** · 10-30-2010, 11:46 PM

thaks, i cant do so much big sruff cause i am limited by my kiln a paragon sc3 , at first it was really cool but then i found that the door is shit i want a door like on the f-130.., i saved already money for one so maybe january i can order a f-130

i have to circle stuff trough the little bead door or i have to open the door to get things out or put things in

kind regards frank

**steak351** · 11-02-2010, 01:05 AM

some new stuff from the weekend, i hope you like it

someone asked me to make a black and white spoon this is what i came up with i hope he likes it (was my 4ourth spoon btw)

a pushbowl with a horn and dots 18.8mm

some marbles i have been playing with implosions lately

a pendant

kind regards frank