Red Max (premix or surface) or Knight Bullet Burner

[828glass]

^^all that is why i recommend a two stage. 99% of the time you use the centerfire.....and with a redmax that is 44 ports burning at once. of course you can get the minor rider, or the premix rider but almost everyone decides they want a two stage in the end...might as well start out with one.

this is quite possibly the most misinformed quote i have read all year, and your still trying to argue that the red max isn't the same as a 2 stage torch?