i worked out of sum cheap kilns for a long time be creative!!!cheak craigslist thats were i get mine!! ones with blow tube doors come up way more than you world think if found a 16 by 16 by 9 front loader quad doors in orange county for 300 bux brand spankin new guy tossed in a full size ox tank and all his glass and tools i drove 6 hours but what a deal!!i love this kiln !i see kilns for glass all the time i but do check everyday lol about them controllers i use a dig pyro from ebay it runs of 9v batt i been blowing glass since 2000 and havnt had a controller and dont need one it would be nice but really id have to win the lotto to buy one of them i have used my friend over the years but that rich kid shit i was rocking a 50 dollar kiln for years and then a free 3 piece pottery kiln i did mods on to be able to blow glass i know a old glass blower who made his klin starting from a bed frame !!!It works fine i have used it when i was a kid hope this helps