Ronnie's progression thread

[TlkQ]

EDIT: Nevermind. I know I've seen a number quoted but can't find the source to back it up so I'll retract my statement.

[ronnieclaymusic]

Also Ronnie, those spoons are looking good. I always like seeing color melted in nice and well in early work threads, its a rarity to see! Granted, I'm not sure why its taking you 2 hours to get there. The only question I could think to help figure it out is, if you were to make a completely clear piece out of 25x4, how long would that take? No color, no fume, no nothing. Just clear glass, pull a stem, puff out mouthpiece, blow bowl bubble, pop hole(s) and push bowl, finish mouthpiece, voila. What's the time for that? Lets not forget about the ventilation issues, but I'd like to know why your spoons take 2 hours. I now make in 12 minutes what used to take 25, and I can make in 30 what used to take an hour, so I know that things start out much slower and than rapidly speed up with experience, but 2 hours is a loooong time. I mean no disrespect, just trying to help. And you are on a lynx no less? Hmm... have you worked with many other glass blowers or on other torches? Again, pieces looked good Ronnie!

Thank you

About half hr for a clear pipe. I think im always flashing back to avoid cracking so maybe I'm just not hitting the pipe in the right order. But I'm also not sure how to use my lynx and how to use the torch in general. I've done alot of research but I don't have any access to other glass workers so I'm Kinda on my own.

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this may help ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRkl2qi4jkY

[ronnieclaymusic]

this may help ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRkl2qi4jkY

Thx for the link. I had already seen this and I feel I get the basics of it but not so much as far as when to use certain flames and when it's hottest
It also. Is just different in person I guess. I really wish I could get some in person advice

[bildo]

my man the ventilation needs to be hooded because the shit that doest go out of the fans goes directly into the air and as it cools it floats back down behind you and then gets sucked back past your head. that sux. the attic fan costs 100 bucks at the depot there are three, buy the most or second most expensive. when you are there buy a piece of plywood. cut round hole near the top of it. mount attic fan in. open sliding glass door slide ventilation in. move table a little closer to plywood. now this is what many would do. but there are some sticklers on here that would be much more satisfied if you built a small hood onto the piece of plywood. attic fans push hella air. little fans push little air. Most people on here will not advise you on your other problems until you get this rectified.

I have a buddy who had his torch in a big ass barn. he had 10 of those little fans. I got a headache and queazy within two hours. his ventilation was 5 times better than yours.

this is not the same for every torch but I assume the lynx can handle it. 40 psi oxygen 5 psi propane. you are most likely a scared ass noob so...... turn up the oxygen turn up the propane. glass alchemy (a company that makes color noob) has a real nice kit about flame chemistry. it is 20 dollars and it comes with some colors.

also where the fuck are you at? there are flameworkers in new zealand and saudi arabia, shit, even in texas. pay someone to come help you out to start. they will most likely take pity on you and adopt you as there very own noob.

next time I post on this thread i am going to verbally shit on you. good luck ronnie. by the way I had a friend who called lame ass dudes "ronnies"

[ronnieclaymusic]

my man the ventilation needs to be hooded because the shit that doest go out of the fans goes directly into the air and as it cools it floats back down behind you and then gets sucked back past your head. that sux. the attic fan costs 100 bucks at the depot there are three, buy the most or second most expensive. when you are there buy a piece of plywood. cut round hole near the top of it. mount attic fan in. open sliding glass door slide ventilation in. move table a little closer to plywood. now this is what many would do. but there are some sticklers on here that would be much more satisfied if you built a small hood onto the piece of plywood. attic fans push hella air. little fans push little air. Most people on here will not advise you on your other problems until you get this rectified.

I have a buddy who had his torch in a big ass barn. he had 10 of those little fans. I got a headache and queazy within two hours. his ventilation was 5 times better than yours.

this is not the same for every torch but I assume the lynx can handle it. 40 psi oxygen 5 psi propane. you are most likely a scared ass noob so...... turn up the oxygen turn up the propane. glass alchemy (a company that makes color noob) has a real nice kit about flame chemistry. it is 20 dollars and it comes with some colors.

also where the fuck are you at? there are flameworkers in new zealand and saudi arabia, shit, even in texas. pay someone to come help you out to start. they will most likely take pity on you and adopt you as there very own noob.

next time I post on this thread i am going to verbally shit on you. good luck ronnie. by the way I had a friend who called lame ass dudes "ronnies"

I'm not really sure what to say to that lol. I am planning on fixing the ventilation now that I have a much better Idea of what to do. That's part of why I posted a pic of my work space. I do want a safe environment but I know experienced people will spot things I won't so I'm glad it was addressed.

As far as my lynx I'm at 5 propane 10 oxy according to the instructions. I didn't think more oxy pressure matters? If I turn to much oxy in my torch it hisses and the video said to back down then.

[Aymie]

I give up. You are yet another jerk, too lazy to do the work, too stubborn to learn. Stop fucking questioning what we say and just fucking do it. Or better yet, give it up. If you honestly read contemporary lampworking then you are too stupid to be a safe lampworker.

[Lever2stackS]

I run my lynx oxy @40 and propane @8 5 to 1 ratio should get the best combustion.

[Aymie]

Why is anyone helping him run his torch when he doesn't have proper ventilation. First things first people.

[Lever2stackS]

^Your totally right aymie my bad. I would get your ventilation sorted out ronnie before you go melting anymore glass. Good ventilation is crucial to working with glass everybody here is giving you good advice I would take it.

[Chad S]

^^ I agree, fix your ventilation first, then worry about how to melt glass afterwards. Until then.. forget about everything else & focus on proper ventilation. Stop asking to many questions as it will do you no good right now. Your main concern should be ventilation ONLY right now. You have a lot a work to do to install proper ventilation, make that your number one priority.

[LowTideGlass]

Why so much hostility here guys? The man is looking for some info, and everyone is just beating him up. Other than retrofitting a high velocity attic fan, I think the setup looks fine. concrete floors, big open space, what is sketchy about that setup?? Obviously, ventilation is a top priority, but there is no need to ream the guy for asking additional questions while he figures out his venting situation.

It looks like 80% of the people who responded in this thread only joined within the past year or so anyways, so what is up with the "fucking newb use the search engine" attitude. What, once you have been a member for over a year, you have the right to shit on new people asking questions? Not cool.

Ronnyclay, just make sure you get a more powerful fan, retrofit it with some plywood or something, and keep on burning. Don't let anyone turn you off here, there is a wealth of information abound, and sometimes it helps to spend hours and hours of research, combing through old threads, before you post a question that has been answered before.

Good luck with the setup. Let us know if you have any more questions.

[Jeffs Pieces]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuiHd...ature=youtu.be

[HOSS]

Why so much hostility here guys? The man is looking for some info, and everyone is just beating him up. Other than retrofitting a high velocity attic fan, I think the setup looks fine.

I think it's a question of attitude. Dude started off fine searching for info and asking for advice, but when he got the correct answer from multiple sources instead of just accepting it and going ahead with the upgrade, it went into round after round of "But WHY do I need to do that?", while at the same time claiming not to have time to look into the in depth reasons behind it, basically expecting everyone here to hold his hand in learning all the complex in's and out's of ventilation.

If you're going to come here looking for advice on something that has been covered over and over like this, either accept the consensus response when you get it or go take the time look up the technical details for yourself. Arguing the necessity isn't going to go over well. We can tell you how to set up safely and it's really not that difficult, nobody wants you to poison yourself. But it's not our job to put you through HVAC school to understand WHY it works the way it does.

[Chad S]

^^ Damn very well said Hoss. At least you get it.

[Icarus]

Wow, this is kind of sad in so many ways.

Ronnie, you might be having problems finding an attic fan because more often they are called gable fans (as in the go in the gables of your home to ventilate hot air out of your attic)

Here is one:
http://www.homedepot.com/buy/master-...l#.UDeXxMFlQmw

It is important to get one. You will want to mount it in a window. Just cut a piece a of plywood that fits into the window frame. Make another cut for your fan. To mount it in there on a temporary basis, you could cut four small holes that you could string c-clamps through to hold it to the window frame. You would then want to figure out some way to seal around those (something like great stuff expanding foam). Since the cut is in the plywood,you wouldn't be putting the foam onto anything permanent, just where the bar of your C-clamp passes through.

I'm trying to think of a good analogy of why it's important to have your fan in the window instead of just sitting in front of your window. Let's think of your room as a hose. A hose ends with a small opening that water can just shoot out. What if instead of that opening, a hose ended at something that looked like a globe style fish aquarium with two openings. The water instead of pouring out the small opening at the end would come out of the hose, and then splash around in that bowl before finally exiting. That splashing and turbulence is exactly what you're trying to avoid, as that water would be air in your room carrying exhaust gases and heavy metals and what not. You need to evacuate that as quickly as possible so you don't breath it in. The setup you have will just have way too much turbulence

I know that's not a great analogy, but that's essentially what is at play here.

Also, these people are trying to help you. It might not seem like it, but no one wants you to hurt yourself. Consider it tough love.

[Aymie]

You have more patience than I do icky, but that was a great explanation, complete with instructions.

[Matt P]

exactly. Lots of tough love on this site. We're not knitting. Each and every one of us could be killed by making mistakes. Nobody's fucking around when it comes to this stuff. The 30 minutes on a clear piece sounds much more realistic working times for a noob. Maybe you underestimate what a hissing torch sounds like? All torches hiss when oxidizing, they sound like they are shooting out propane and oxygen, that someone has then ignited... HIIISSSSSSSSSS

Don't be scared of your torch, but be super respectful of it. Its okay if its hissing some, and with a gtt better to really open up the valves and pressures, rather than let it run low right? I was under the impression that short candles were a danger sign. Where are you located? You need to meet up with some people in person. You could learn your torch, as most people run lynx's at some point in their life as a center fire, or an independent torch. You might take their ventilation input more seriously in person. So announce your location and get some help buddy.

[ronnieclaymusic]

I give up. You are yet another jerk, too lazy to do the work, too stubborn to learn. Stop fucking questioning what we say and just fucking do it. Or better yet, give it up. If you honestly read contemporary lampworking then you are too stupid to be a safe lampworker.

Wow, everyone says do your research. But you should do yours before you post. As in read what I have said first so you know what the hell your responding to. Has everyone here skipped over the multiple posts I have made stating I am now aware of my ventilation issue, and that I WILL be fixing it? and that I appreciate everyone's time?

Have you seen that I clearly said I have researched this for hours every week for six months?
Maybe you all are just better on using a search engine then me. I rarely use forums for anything.
But i am aware it's considered bad etiquette to just randomly post without searching first.
Which is why in my VERY FIRST post I made that clear.

There have been a few helpful responses but not many and frankly it disappoints me as after just being a lurker for half a year I was excited to get to know everyone.

Also why is it bad to ask why something works? I don blindly follow answers without at least trying to understand them so I can both use and improve on the concept. I teach guitar and I would NEVER tell my students to do something without explaining why.

I don't get why I'm getting attacked when I've made it very clear I appreciate th help. Kinda a turn off to this " community" so I'm not sure I want to be part of it.

And no contemporary lampworking has a very brief section on ventilation that did not address my problem.(outdoor or close to out door ventilation) can you honestly point me to a existing thread here that covers that?
I doubt it

Thank you to those that have been helpful. To everyone else you need to find something better to do with your anger and aggression than take it out on a beginner just asking questions I could not find the answers to.

Is there a way to delete this thread or will it clear when I delete my account?

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what's wrong with holding someones hand? so what if you have to explain everything in fine detail. teaching can be as fun as learning.

i don't get it.