Are you a nasty little bench?

[WORLD FAMOUS]

Vote if you keep your workbench clean or dirty, then show us a picture of your bench in the state that you generally keep it.

I can tell you from years of traveling around to others shops, that I am in the minority as far as maintaining a clean benches goes. I get a lot of shit for it too...lol.

I remember back to my childhood - my dad's workbench for his carpenter tools was always really well organized, clean, and well taken care of. I remember him always saying "A cluttered bench is a cluttered mind!" I guess that's one thing that always stuck with me.

First two pics are from 2005? when I lived and worked in OR.
UPDATE: Last two pics are from 2009 at my shop in CA.

[kruger]

hey nate...illegal image reference


ill post a pic later when i get some time

[JDeMoss]

That is sickeningly clean.

Mine is just clean enough that I can usually find what I'm looking for.....usually.

[WORLD FAMOUS]

Some more Studio/Oregon shots...I just added this gallery today.
http://www.glassartists.org/Gal20396_Studio_Pictures.asp

[B.C. Creations]

depends on the day with me. somedays its clean somedays its nasty....

[B.C. Creations]

i was talking about my bench/work area

[J McGhee]

mine is about as clean as n8. except nate clean his for the pic... he's really a dirty lil you know what....

[steven p selchow]

I suspect Nate did a little cleaning for the pic..I mean who doesn't have a pile of rods on their right side? I'm a neat freak for organization, but I've had the same look as that without cleaning to...you sur gots a lotta room my friend.

steve

[WORLD FAMOUS]

This is how it looks as I come and go. Maybe not mid-session, but sometimes. When I'm done with various procedures and I take a safety break, I go into auto-cleanup mode, knocking off random trashy gathers and putting the rods/tools back. It's amazing what 30 seconds will do 5 times a day. 2-1/2 minutes? But that's how long it takes to pull two points...HAHA! It's all good! I'm not preaching! Rock out with your nasty selves!

[β]

Here's a snapshot of my current bench. I had a new gable go in over the weekend, and i had to smash some durock down. I love excuses..... :o:

[Swampy]

fucking spotless, see...

http://www.bzgrafix.com/studio/s5_resources/me@work/torchinit_01_mini.jpg

Paul

[The Goat]

I'm a dirty bitch! ....Oh i mean bench. hehe
had to take mine since nobody had the balls to show their dirty one so far. mines dirty front to back see. :devil1: :tongue2:

[The Goat]

:devil1: thought i'd put one up of mike luna's so i wouldn't look soo bad. hehe :devil1:

[Greymatter Glass]

this is the only pic I can find of my bench set up... I'm on a differnt bench now, but the layout and mess are about the same.... a little messier now days since I have more crap in a smaller space....

http://www.greymatter.org/glass/table2.jpg

[WORLD FAMOUS]

Someone grab a pic of Wood's bench...nast filthy cigarette butts laying right in the danger zone! Nasty little benches!

[rustyglass]

Hey Nate, if a cluttered bench = cluttered mind, than what does an empty desk mean....???


I dont have pics but my shit is super dirty. stringers, frit, powder, shards etc....

[The Goat]

N8, you get off on nasty benches? that must by why you made this poll, you got tired of searchin GP for nasty little benches. so you said to your self. "myself" Hmmm...... "if i make a poll of dirty benches, it will be like a Porn page for Me." and i can "get off" a lot quicker and not cut in to my work schedule. LOL man :dieslaugh

[christopher]

Nate, you must be hella busy if that big ass steel drum is your scrap bucket...LOL...

[FredLight]

He said he cleans up rather often,while taking a safety break.

It must be an ashtray.

oooooh. LOL....

[HumanLathe]

You don't want to see my bench right now , its kinda sad, it is just being used as storage for shit :D

[Natedizzle]

I keep my shit super clean... Way cleaner than your's n8!

[slave]

i seems the only time my bench/shop gets cleaned is when i run out of oxygen. when i went to visit jeff and cristi i felt like a slob... the bench was really clean the whole time i was there (in my standards) but i think it was the sloppiest they have ever seen it. so i think im going to try (and try again) to follow suit and see how it effects my efficiency. i was once told that most artists have messy rooms don't know how true it is but i know my room is messy... doesn't seem to matter though cause i dont' know how much of an artist i am.

[JDeMoss]

Okay, here is mine until I build the new one this fall.

[Devils Defect]

My bench is clean sometimes and dirty other times...but right now, its in one of those dirty modes.

[Brian Newman]

Just getting started at my nasty little collection again.

[HumanLathe]

Just getting started at my nasty little collection again.


Doodle, Your bench is a park bench WTF no fire board? your nuts!

[The Goat]

Doodle, Your bench is a park bench WTF no fire board? your nuts!


naw man that card board is the best, "on fire" board! LOL

If you look to the left of my red max you'll see the pile of shit that caught on fire tonight when i droped a molten flare of 50/5 on it. :twitch:

I guess its time to clean that shit up. LOL :tantrum:

Kinda funny how this poll was up then that shit happened tonight?

[PyroChixRock]

You don't want to see my bench right now , its kinda sad, it is just being used as storage for shit :D

Oh c'mon...sure they do!!! :attitude:

[HumanLathe]

I once used an old plastic kitchen knife holder to my hold rods. I came back in from lunch one day and there was a flaming puddle of molten plastic LOL! That to-date is the only time I have had to use my fire extinguisher.

[HumanLathe]

HHAHAHA what is funny is that "that pic" is actually Misha's side LOL!!!! My side is clean now after tonight !!

[PyroChixRock]

I was showing the middle...which is YOUR mess chachi!

Hey, you should stop posting while you're ahead or I'm going to start making fun of your damn grammar more than I already do! :lol :attitude:

[PyroChixRock]

Now watch, he'll come blame it on Blake... :lol


Here is my "mess" hehe.

[HumanLathe]

oh no I would just like to show...... and yes that was blake's mess!!! Ok I am going to show new pics from today~

[PyroChixRock]

Oh you are so full of shit hahahaha. But thanks for cleaning it up, biatch!! :lol

[Kool]

Here's a couple photos of mine. That's as nasty as it gets for me. I had a hard time snapping the photo w/o cleaning it up!

[HumanLathe]

A women knows when she is defeated, you have submitted to the alfa male!!!

[The Goat]

A women knows when she is defeated, you have submitted to the alfa male!!!

if she had sumitted to the alfa male, she would have cleaned the mess. hehe
don't feel bad matt i cleaned the kitchen today. haha

[misled youth]

i clean the bench when i get ready to make something nice! other wise i got shit everywhere!!! i will post a pic soon of my bench. 4x8 full of shit!!


http://www.glasspipes.org/Gal18945_the_shop.asp


that is my new shop and messy ass bench

[Brian Newman]

I lost my graphite slab(24"X16"X1/4") in the move from Ontario two months back, and my shop is just barely set up. I have big plans for the place, starting with a cement floor, and working up from there. First comes the chainsaw for firewood...

[HumanLathe]

if she had sumitted to the alfa male, she would have cleaned the mess. hehe
don't feel bad matt i cleaned the kitchen today. haha


I didn't clean her mess LOL! BTW Brian thats a huge house is it all yours?

[Brian Newman]

Yes, and half of the ground floor is for my shop. I was thinking of a gallery/shop combo, though that will take years, and sales are slow for now.

[Devils Defect]

Nice house Brian. As for my bench, Im outside, its super ventelated. Ive got really good, when the wind blows i can adjust my arm to get right in the flame. Ive eaten about 50 bugs. My bench is also a very clean mess.

[Firekist]

the alfalfa male (alpha... alpha)

i know i keep my crescent wrench right by my torch.. .. strange glass tool matt =)

z--seth

[mmount]

hey N8 hows it going?

Heres a pic of my nasty little bench, I clean before I start, but not after.

http://www.moltenhues.com/bench2.jpg

[WORLD FAMOUS]

oh no I would just like to show...... and yes that was blake's mess!!! Ok I am going to show new pics from today~

LOL!!! I have NEVER EVER seen it that clean when I've visited!

[FredLight]

I tried to take a pic of my mess.... I started to freak out. Is this some sort of test?

I arranged everything all perfect. It looked suspicious.

[jusbag]

here's a pic of my immaculate bench on googlepages.

http://jusbag.googlepages.com/home

[max16o2]

mine is usually about the same as luna's, total joke when trying to find shit

[Meerkat]

I have always kept my bench super neat, tidy, organized, but I recently quit doing that and have purpously been going for messy, as every other blowers place I have been to has a very messy bench and so I figure that maybe if I wasnt so concerned about keeping everyting organized, the messyness would let me be more free flowing, lax and thus more creative, we shall see

[gotglass?]

Like slavenation i usually clean when i'm outta O2.... sometimes i make a scrap pipe.... you know pick up those little short stringers not good for much else and use them sometimes this can be blah or lead to interesting color combos.... with the exception of a few shown here with a boro protective layer these so called messy benches are mine on a clean day..... DAMN YOU ALL !! ...you've guilted me into finishing this post and cleaning my shop

[Glassroots]

that pic of mike lunas bench is so nasty it made sick to my stomach..... seriously, he could be on the verge of a mental breakdown

[NOFO]

you can almost smell te wood burning....
http://liquidcolordesign.com/gldg/marver2.jpg....http://liquidcolordesign.com/gldg/glass.jpg

[$$$$$$$]

first pic is mine second is alex's bench

[steven p selchow]

Can I come over and clean Alex's bench, I'll do it for free. Even drive and pay for the gas myself.

[WORLD FAMOUS]

Adam 4 PreZiDent in 2008! He's sharp, and keeps a real clean bench!

[Mr. Whale dick]

yeah my bench is pretty nasty.....


all types of junk on there i don't even use...

[HaulAss]

Haha at first I thought Adam was broke but at closer inspection he just keeps his loot in a tidy pile, got some foreign money there too weird...

[billygoat]

i like the stack of NKOTB trading cards....what are those worth????

[UmaJulz]

Alex must have been on his best behavior when I have visited- I had no idea he was such a nasty! Hahaha! Actually, it is rather appealing in some respects.

Look, even Fluffy Beady Ladies have not quite lickable benches... anything cleaner and it's just too constipating for the creativity.

[Burnie Lomax]

what?? i wish i had a herbie.

[gravdigr]

I posted this in another thread and someone linked to this thread so I think I'll try to keep it alive. Damn some of you are nasty mofos. My wife will be the first one to tell you that I am a total slob. My problem is that a messy room, workspace, whatever depresses me and makes me lazy. Since I am depressed AND lazy I do not have the urge to clean up. It's a nasty cycle. I do find that I work better when I have a clean organized workspace, be it my workbench for metalworking, my toolbox when doing my mechanic stuff, or my room whenever we want to test out some new failures I made at the glassworking bench (I'm still learning).

This is currently our workbench in progress. I have added toolholders to the front of the bench and plan to add storage under the bench and get rid of the scrap steel and other junk cluttering it up. I am still getting used to where I want things to be when I'm working so things are moving around. My water can is now on the left since I use my left hand to gather glass onto rods. Thing is I'm halfassed ambidexterous so I do some things better with my right hand and others with my left. Unfortunatly my left hand is having trouble learning how to spin glass without being retarded. But I digress....

http://www.the-graveyard.net/files/shop1.jpg

http://www.the-graveyard.net/files/shop2.jpg

http://www.the-graveyard.net/files/shop3.jpg

[jcherrellglass]

Oh! Mine is nasty! The nastiest part is that it's an integrated mess, soft and hard glass coming together as one. Who says they aren't compatible? Here's a blog tour from not long ago: http://jcherrell.blogspot.com/2006/12/studio-tour.html

[FredLight]

I'm a nasty little bench too!

14 months ago it looked like picture #1.

The second picture is a glimpse of the cluster funk it is now.

[eternalfrost]

hey Tokin', whats that blue tape for on all ur tools in the first pic?

[broken glass]

I got a pic of my old shop when it was on the clean side.

[Shatner]

hey Tokin', whats that blue tape for on all ur tools in the first pic?

To distinguish his tools from other peoples tools would be my guess. That's what I did when working with another blower.

[ech]

***

[The Lorax]

nastyyyy broken glass, nasty.. especialy the white stuff (for get what it is called) but that stuff def. isn't good to inhale...
why is your gtt discolored at the tip as well?

[Brian Newman]

especialy the white stuff (for get what it is called)

Ceramic fiber blanket?

[broken glass]

My Gtt is discolored, O snaps, mabey ive been working it wrong for the last five years? Better check the owners manual.

[Shatner]

My Gtt is discolored, O snaps, mabey ive been working it wrong for the last five years? Better check the owners manual.

:dieslaugh

Mines discolored after only a month. Not nearly as much as yours, but still a little.

[CCody]

ok now im showing off. but there is a good reason my bench is soooo anally clean. I have to clean off each peice of glass before Iuse it because when my sandblaster was set up, we were finding sand in al the finished product. I dont know if its our super ventilation, or what, but its been a long time, and I still have dirty marble issues if I dont keep it clean. hmmm.......
so is that clean enough to eat off of or what?!
christina cody

[gravdigr]

ok now im showing off. but there is a good reason my bench is soooo anally clean. I have to clean off each peice of glass before Iuse it because when my sandblaster was set up, we were finding sand in al the finished product. I dont know if its our super ventilation, or what, but its been a long time, and I still have dirty marble issues if I dont keep it clean. hmmm.......
so is that clean enough to eat off of or what?!
christina cody

WHen you sandblast the sand will get everywhere in the building, it is unavoidable. I have a huge exhaust blower in my sandblast room, it will literally suck the hat off your head. And the room is walled off from the rest of the building (building is 60' long) in a separate area and I still have sand everywhere.

[Scott Pernicka]

starts clean ends up a mess by the end of the day. Just finished off my third or fourth edition to what I need in ventalation. Only thing missing is a water cooled bench.

[PyroChixRock]

i always get a good laugh out of this thread. hehe :D

[jusbag]

Damn Scott, those are some big arse marble molds!

[newmexicomagma]

well here are my pics of my bench. i usually clean it every day before i get to work. now i just need a huge plate of graphite and some marble molds. sorry about the pic quality they r from my phone.

[newmexicomagma]

sorry forgot to up;oad here they r

[newmexicomagma]

not e the fridge for close proximity cold beverages, and the dishwasher for extra storage. (works great)

[The Lorax]

i think you should really look into your ventalation issue...

[Shatner]

i think you should really look into your ventalation issue...

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[newmexicomagma]

yah i agree, i need better ventilation right now i a using a bunch of fans blowing at me a sucking away from me. i did a smoke test and all my air goes out of my garage but a hood and squirrel fan sure would be nice.

[Firekist]

boy i'm slow. here's my bench in the middle of the day



z---seth

[wildrokproductions]

I remember the poll about who's left or right handed , but its funny to see the difference in work habits too. I'm beginig to think all of us leftys have o.c.d. The messy benches are driving me nuts, Ihave to give everything a home on my spot. Rock On clean table glassblowers!!:pimp:

[Swampy]

It's CDO, by the way.

/obsessively alphabetical

:-)

[gravdigr]

Well after getting to work for a few months I have learned something, sharing a bench with a slob (no offence bud, you know who you are) blows. I'm not OCD about my bench but I have to have organization. On my right are the racks for raking rods, points, blowtubes, graphite pad, and an empty rack for color rods I am using at the moment. On my left is the rack for full color rods and a spot where all the used color rods go plus an area for handles and shorties that need handles. At the end of the day any prep work that needs done the next day when I start (shorties that need handles, blowtubes that need welded together, bits of 4mm or 6mm that need welded together, etc..) it all goes in front of the torch for the next morning.

Now when my friend comes over the bench is all nice and neat. Then my boy goes all tasmanian devil on it and the color rods on handles look like a game of pick up sticks. I did manage to train him to mostly put away the tools. There's busted glass everywhere if a piece happened to shatter on him. And it just regular chaos. I watch the guy work and he'll grab a tool out of the holder, use it, then rather than take 2 seconds to put the tool back in the holder it goes on top of all the color rods....then when he needs it again he's searching all over the bench for it :D and winds up spending more time looking for the tool than he would if he just put it back. :bangHead:

I will have to give him props though for welding about 4 doxen 4mm pieces ranging from 5" long to 8" long together before he finished up the last time. Think he felt guilty because I had almost 3 dozen points pulled for him when he showed up that day. I'll prolly have some before and after pics this weekend unless he reads this first heh

[mer]

I remember the poll about who's left or right handed , but its funny to see the difference in work habits too. I'm beginig to think all of us leftys have o.c.d. The messy benches are driving me nuts, Ihave to give everything a home on my spot. Rock On clean table glassblowers!!:pimp:

clean bench OCD lefty represent!!!

[Pilgrim]

mine looks like hell most of the time.........

[Glacier_Arts_Studio]

well, everyone else did so, i guess i'll post my mess little "green house" studio...lol...

[susheke]

LOL! Some of those benches are way nasty! It freaks me out thinking about how you ever find anything.

I need organization. For one thing I work with about 4 different coe's so no way could I just leave rods laying around. And a styrofoam container on your bench!! geeze, don't tell me you are chowing down on your Big Mac while working, lol

Now, if you could see my office you would laugh, that is a disaster area.

[gravdigr]

My bench has a spit cup attachment for when I'm working and chewing baccy :insert hilbilly smilie:

[UmaJulz]

Well come on Suzy, show us your nasty office then, and then your pristine bench! :) I mean that in the nicest of ways, but to comment without showing your own bench... that's like non-parents handing out parenting advice!

Mine is evolving from the pics I posted earlier- adding boro to the mix. Fortunately I am the only one using this space- this week- so I know what's what. Next weekend ought to be a fun time for picks with a bunch of us all torching at the same time.

[UmaJulz]

Digr you gave me an idea- beer bottle cooler cups mounted to the side of the bench somehow, within reach but out of the way. No spills, just chills!

[susheke]

OK, OK, I'll show you. But I'm squashed in a corner and these pictures are taken with my back against the wall. You can't see my hood or get the true feel of my dungeon. But you should see my glass!!! lol

[Nokey]

OK, OK, I'll show you. But I'm squashed in a corner and these pictures are taken with my back against the wall. You can't see my hood or get the true feel of my dungeon. But you should see my glass!!! lol

O.K. now how about the office?????

[susheke]

ah, do I have to?
I'm so ashamed....

hang on I'll take a picture for you. It is actually pretty good since we are trying to sell our house. But the jewelry bench isn't pretty.

[susheke]

ok,

[Glacier_Arts_Studio]

LOL! Some of those benches are way nasty! It freaks me out thinking about how you ever find anything.

I need organization. For one thing I work with about 4 different coe's so no way could I just leave rods laying around. And a styrofoam container on your bench!! geeze, don't tell me you are chowing down on your Big Mac while working, lol

Now, if you could see my office you would laugh, that is a disaster area.

that styrofoam cup had only treasures from my teachers bench and trash can...lol... it took me a while to find it and remember what it was for, from so long ago...lol... that nasty little bench is in a green house that sits 48 feet from my back door and i do my breaks and eating at the computer, where there is only half the mess...lol...

[UmaJulz]

Uh oh suzy, if that's a mess... I wonder what Angie's idea of a mess is. :o:


haha Glacier- your edit excuse... precious! but, you're late!

[susheke]

I want a greenhouse! I crave daylight!!! I swear my next house will have a studio space above ground.

[susheke]

Julz, it is neatened up a bit. I have house showings all the time so it has to look somewhat like organized chaos. I do swear every time I go to make jewelry because I have a hard time finding things.

[smutboy420]

Only thing missing is a water cooled bench.

You want one?

[Glacier_Arts_Studio]

I want a greenhouse! I crave daylight!!! I swear my next house will have a studio space above ground.

well, that sounds good and all... But, sunlight and seeing the heat base in the glass as well as, the color of the flame don't go well together...

i'll trade you my green house for your basement any day...

and UmaJulz, i'm not late, i just take big, long breaks... or else i pack them deeply in a large bowl...

[Snurf]

glacier art,
swich to a black colored work surface...you can se the glass and flame alot better

[susheke]

You want to be in my basement with water on the floor more than not, 100 year old dirt and sand, spiders, crickets and the crazy bird that thinks I'm his Mother? It's a deal.

[Glacier_Arts_Studio]

glacier art,
swich to a black colored work surface...you can se the glass and flame alot better

that sounds kool but, still i live in florida where it is hott, day and night but, it's at least bearable at night...



You want to be in my basement with water on the floor more than not, 100 year old dirt and sand, spiders, crickets and the crazy bird that thinks I'm his Mother? It's a deal.

you through in the bird and you got a deal...

[UmaJulz]

yeah, but the bird thinks it's a Phoenix... drawn to the flame... *singe*

[ShttrdSpctrm]

keep it nasty all :spank:

[Doc Holliday]

here is new set up, still working on making better

[vetropod]

Dang, that's a HUGE workshop! Must be nice to have so much space.

[Doc Holliday]

shizz, its still crammed for space with 3 guys working! i want BIGGGGER!! muahaha

[Kaj Beck]

My bench is THRASHED, every damn day I walk in and say "oh I should clean this mess" then I fire up the torch and forget about my bench, that is until I can't find my tweezers or some other tool. The new issue of Glassline shows how destroyed my area is. N8 your pops was right - a cluttered mind is what I have. Frank Zappa had a quote that went something like "Having a clean work area allows you to be chaotic with your art." Now I feel like a dirtbag- Thanks for reminding me.

[n3rd]

I can vouch for that^^ Welcome to thegldg Kaj, BTW this the guy from San Jose you teach :P

[Chase Designs]

Okay too dark to take a photo but here it is with Greg working

[Meerkat]

Doesn't that heat up your colors that are sitting right behind your torch flame ?

[Chase Designs]

Nope, not at all. Not even when we have the torch cranked all the way up.

[Brian Newman]

I have kept my messy ways. Nick is the tidy one.
B.T.W., Pictures have vanished from this thread???

[PyroChixRock]

sorry about the pics, brian. we moved the server while you were gone, and have been having some trouble getting the pics moved over. we haven't given up yet...just need some time. ;)

[blazeoffire]

Here is a pict of my bench , how it looks most of the time.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l293/blazeoffireglass/DSCN0431.jpg

[Robin Green Eye]

My bench is way nasty, my husband says that fits, since I'm a nasty little girl, I take it as a compliment. :D

[JDeMoss]

I finally got rid of my nasty little bench and now have a nice clean set-up. http://www.glassartists.org/Gal28165_New_Glass_Shop.asp Now that I have a nice space I find myself cleaning the bench and sweeping the floor all day. It is so nice to be able to drop a piece and have it land on a clean surface, saves a lot of headache.

[mer]

looks like a nice space, congrats.

[glassshack]

trying to keep it clean, its still new

[Gibsons Glassworks]

trying to keep it clean, its still new

man nice live glass blowing sign, i had one of those, quit putting it out because people kepet coming into my shop and wanting me to preform like a monkey, glad i dont have one of those anymore.

cheers on the shop space tho, looke cumfy.

later

[Dan F.]

Keeping it clean.

[e-jipt]

here's my bench, i'd consider this pretty clean.
let me know what you think it's all I got =p

http://www.glasspipes.org/Gal27739_.asp

[Ben 'Spice' Crowley]

My bench is more deadly than a B&#G hit of Silver fume

[NUBBLET]

I have missing signs up for my desk . I havent seen it for two months . I clean it when I cant find it or touch it from the top , whether it needs it or not.

[Dom]

here's my bench, i'd consider this pretty clean.
let me know what you think it's all I got =p

http://www.glasspipes.org/Gal27739_.asp

I though for a second that you had a liquid tank and only a national 6b. Made me chuckle until I saw the other torch.

[mind over matter]

first pic is mine second is alex's bench

This guys got money to burn ! litterly LOL

[mind over matter]

I allways vacum off the bench with a double filter shop vac before I start every day! I do This to ensure there is no glass dust from cuts and breaks also bubble trash can float around for days and that shit will kill you !Every time There is a bubble trash accident I stop and vacume it all up right away ASAP.If you have ever seen bubble trash break in a strong light you can see micro glass dust shards floating for alot longer than you would expect and once it settles it is easy to kick up off the bench if you do not properly clean up.I would strongly advise anyone who does not allready have a double filter shop vac to get one ,it is the best $100 you will ever spend to prevent silicosis. Having a clean work enviornment is just as important as a good set of glasses and a good ventilation system. When it comes to your health dont cut the corner. Get a good set of glasses ,a good exhuast system ,and a DOUBLE FILTER SHOP VAC so you can clean smalll glass shards before they end up in your lungs ! Make sure you get a double filter shop vac ,I would not try using a regular filter it could kick out alot of fine glass dust when the vac gets full !

[nafglass]

This ^^ is a good idea especially for those of us who do blow thin bubbles. I try to avoid it as often as possible. My grandfather was a stone mason that died of silicosis. I'd like to avoid the same result but he was old school and never wore a mask when he should have. Anyway, can a regular shop vac be converted to a double filter?

[Reverend]

Yea in the granite countertop bizz we called it rock lung. Eventually your lungs absorb the stone particals and will be lined with rock.. Scary thought though, and with glass even scarier...

[Glassroots]

really...................... this............................ again.......

[WORLD FAMOUS]

I've added some new bench pics posted in the very first post in this thread - it's interesting to see the differences in bench setups over 3 or 4 years...heh.

[filthy god brother]

Here's how I roll.

Watch movies, listen to tunes, work.

[shark bait]

Filthy, I think i have the same cobra sculpture that you have sitting on your tv.
I found it ten years ago while digging for antique bottles.
Does your's have a slit on top of its head?

[filthy god brother]

No slit in the head.
Got it from a friend a few years back.
It looks like a kid made it with a hammer and chisel.

[naughty pirate wench]

Here's my set-up. I've been trying to keep it a little tidier lately since I've been switching back and forth between boro and 104 COE, and the kids have been doing more glass too. No t.v., tunes are behind me. Note the ghetto elbow pads which stink to high heaven when hot glass or tools touch them...glad I got a kickin' vent system. Thanks Jerry! :blowkiss:

[SNYD]

I've added some new bench pics posted in the very first post in this thread - it's interesting to see the differences in bench setups over 3 or 4 years...heh.
Nice new bench there N8, is that a delta or a kobuki?
PEace
nate

[faded]

apparently i'm nasty, ...............................


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[WORLD FAMOUS]

Nice new bench there N8, is that a delta or a kobuki?
PEace
nate

Delta Mag. :D

[ALIEN!]

I keep my bench pretty meticulous, vacuum a few times a day w/ double filtered shop vac. Its pretty sloppy right now. I used to be worse, but decided finally I was sick of losing track of things. Now everything has its spot, scrap goes directly in the water and tools are replaced and organized between every piece.

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18588

[SNYD]

Delta Mag. :D

Sweet! Now lets see some 4" + N8 Marbles:D I also Like the tube sitting on your bench, I thought you where more of a Volcano Guy.:crazy:

[WORLD FAMOUS]

The Volcano Lounge is upstairs by the computer and photo lab. =)

[weberglass]

N8 did some work on my hot little bench last week. He's a slob and I think this thread is a scam so he can make a move on your nasty little bench too. Nate.... I am still picking up the pieces. Hands off... my bench ain't your bitch!! ;-)

[CripSkillz]

Bench Up grade, after working at a few other shops I have picked up lots of tips and now I almost got it where i want it.. got my mirage today tooo STOKED>>.

http://cripskillz.com/pics/gldg/6352.jpg

[WORLD FAMOUS]

Travis, don't blow my cover!

Crip, congrats on the new Mirage!!!

[Clear_dome]

heheh yeah bro !!! the mirage seem like an awesome torch ! great bench to ! can I ask you what you do with the lil press :contempla ?

[CripSkillz]

heheh I flatten stuff.. LOL, not really to much yet Im not really knowing what to do with it other than make flat cane, which it does pretty nice.. other wise still figuring it out..

[metalbone]

Here are a couple of shots of my cave...

[larren]

Old pics of my shop from about a year ago? Typical mess, sometimes its cleaner and well othertimes its worse. I like to work more than I like to clean my bench. Its a 7x15 box. Its actually an old coors beer truck I built a wall and door in the back and it has roll up doors on both sides. Takes a lot of prep to get it ready to move down the road!

[broken glass]

this is it

[mer]

my bench is immaculate, but my boy's on the other hand...

[CripSkillz]

my bench is on your boys status right now heheh..

[Clear_dome]

hehe so here we go , that's how my lil bench look like (in the good days)

pix are in order , from left to right

http://s1d4.turboimagehost.com/t/2056585_DSCF0321.JPG (http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/2056585/DSCF0321.JPG.html) http://s1d4.turboimagehost.com/t/2056586_DSCF0320.JPG (http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/2056586/DSCF0320.JPG.html) http://s1d4.turboimagehost.com/t/2056587_DSCF0322.JPG (http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/2056587/DSCF0322.JPG.html)

I finaly fixed my aura kiln , now it work ok but the doors still suck and need to be re-work . I also made a rest holder ....oh and yeah I'm rocking a phantom now , and I have to say that it is like 100x hotter than my rocket , the way the heat is project is just fantastic ! but the shoulder is pretty small , not too small but still smaller than what I'm use to but the center fire is sublime !!!

you can click on the pix to see them larger :)

[faded]

mine got really bad. then i cleared everything off but what i really need. my work has improved because of it.

[jes]

here i am about a month ago, listenin to music too... I like the table in the middle, for cleaning and I started classes for first timers so its condusive to learning and watching as well, and easier I belive to clean all around, and maybe safer because their is no wall infront of my fire i dont know but it feels safer to me...

[faded]

nice boot warmer. :)

[vetropod]

nice boot warmer. :)

ditto! Jes knows where it's at!!! Forget those battery-operated boot warmers... :bouncy:

[CripSkillz]

I think i got bout 3 months sense last cleaning,, and I ran out of oxy last night but just got more so there goes my cleaning time.. maybe next tank.. lol

http://cripskillz.com/glass/stuff/mT9311.jpg

[schmoinkel]

This bench needs an enema!!!

23328

23329


Probably about 5 months

That one pile filled a 30 gallon trash can

And the shame sets in


Did I learn...no


Scott

[hippi]

heres my bench....its kinda messy although i dont have a lot of color rods just sample packs still so im sure it will get worse in time haha.. i dont know if you can see it in the pic but theres a bunch of lil glass slivers the size of a hair all over...i vacume proly every or ever other oxy tank...
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/2010-02-09102833.jpg

[Dom]

I like the tiles. Is you whole bench just positioned in front of the garage door?

[NUBBLET]

I think I have a desk , I would have to check under the pile of glass though , so you guys just have to take my word . I have a desk , somewhere .

[bzglass]

Scott That bench is rediculous. You need a maid and an enama for that bench.

[hippi]

I like the tiles. Is you whole bench just positioned in front of the garage door?

thanks, i got the tiles from my father in law..they were leftovers from my wife and her moms hair salon they opened...and yes its positioned right infront of the garage door...its my parents house so the shop had to be a temp untill me and my wife find a house...heres some pix
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/bench.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/oneUPfabrication/hippiGlass/shop.jpg

[The Lorax]

I gotta say i really like the idea. looks great hippi especially with those new tiles

[hippi]

thanks lorax! im still making improvments on it here and there... i think i might completly box it in so it feels like a real studio lol

[bzglass]

hippi is your fan ducted in the back. It looks to me like whatever you are exhausting is just going into the garage, or could possibly be blown right back into your garage by the wind. You should consider putting a few feet of ducting on the back of that fan so, the ducted air will be sent outside and above the garage door header. That way the wind will take it elsewhere.

You don't want to use to much ducting, or have too many bends or the fan will not be utilized as well.

Also if you do decide to enclose your space you will def. need to bring in fresh air/make -up air to replace what you are exhausting. A sliding window would work well.

[madpup]

As way of saying Hi this is mine, i melted my first bit of glass four months ago,
and i really like it.

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/8512/roomkf.jpg (http://img41.imageshack.us/i/roomkf.jpg/)

[chayes]

my bench looks like a tornado hit it.

[Bryan]

yo madpup what kinda hoses you got runnin there...never seen a clear one

[madpup]

just changed my torch to a Nortel Midrange Plus, the hose is the same thou
it from the oxycon, came with it.

[Uriel]

Id say my bench is a halfway between Schmoinkel's and Pups.
I'd take pics but im embarressed as I hate mess but im head down workin towards the first big event this year!

[quincy]

i've been playing around with hdr pics and i snapped a shot of my bench/hood. check out all that open advertising space at the top :) - if anyone has some cool glass related decals they wouldn't mind parting with i'll cover shipping and throw a couple bucks your way for the trouble. thx

http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/7793/setupf.png

[dew]

quincy - you should order some whoopzip...the amount of stickers troy will send you should cover a good portion of that, haha.

[berning]

50/50, leaning towards the clean side . some days have more order than others. this is a pic of what my bench normally looks like in the mornin. while the kiln is warmin up , i straighten up.

[Bryan]

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w185/pntbrake/shop/CIMG0008.jpg

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w185/pntbrake/shop/CIMG0007.jpg

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w185/pntbrake/shop/CIMG0005.jpg

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w185/pntbrake/shop/CIMG0003.jpg


Re-did the shop recently..

[hashmasta-kut]

my bench looks like a tornado hit it.


X2. only took 5 months.

[steak351]

i cleaned yesterday man i found a ton of color rods i havent even toched haha

[hashmasta-kut]

haha nice.

[n3rd]

Bryan your shop looks sick!

[Dom]

Just cleaned the other day.

[jr23]

I loved those rollers I have not replaced them yet.

[Moto42]

A nice, clean workspace is (for me) very pleasent to work in, and impressed the unbelievers non-glassworkers, but a certain level of clutter is nice.
Burn the unbelievers!
Sure, it's a mess, but it's my mess. I know where everything is hiding in there and can get it without looking, or cutting my hand to ribbons.

Right now I don't have a bench to clutter. :o:
I hate being jobless, moneyless and apartmentless.:bummed:

[FredLight]

I just put an hour and a half into cleaning my bench after seeing this thread.

I'll post a picture later. Nothing like some good inspiring threads.

[godling]

I just put an hour and a half into cleaning my bench after seeing this thread.

I'll post a picture later. Nothing like some good inspiring threads.

Is it later yet?

[n3rd]

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z24/N3RDglass/forums/016.jpg

godling your signature got a good lol outta me, good one!

[Dom]

That sure is a nasty bench nerd, you need to clean up.

[blackink]

Haven't gotten the natural gas hooked up yet for the herbie, but the Phantom is doing just fine on propane.

[STROKER]

that bench is way too clean. haha.

seems a bit narrow for my working comfort. i would be hitting the walls all the time with punties and blowtubes.

[blackink]

It's 4 ft across, most of the time it works just fine. I usually break down tubes into 2-3 foot lengths and haven't had a problem. I guess I could pull out the concrete block if I need more punty room.

[hashmasta-kut]

you have to break em down its no biggie, but if you all of a sudden need a rod or tube thats 5 feet long, its nice to just grab it and flame cut it if you have the urge.

also doing a tube pull raging your phantom i wonder if yer handles will be long enuff..

[STROKER]

my blowtubes and punties are at least 20 inches long. add a 14 inch piece inbetween and you are mighty pressed for room. actually you will be working at an angle to fit in there.

my forearms couldnt take the abuse during a big melt on anything shorter than that.

[blackink]

Stroker, I opted for the 3-wall'd hood design specifically for fuming, but I can see your reasoning trying to work a 14" piece. 12" punties and blowtubes are usually enough considering how much air I'm pulling with this hood design.

[STROKER]

well here is my squirrels nest of a bench after 4 days working. damn thing gets nasty quick.

i too have a very large hood with two giant squirrel cages that will suck the chrome off a bumper hitch and actually sucks my flame into it sometimes but i still need long tubes and punties to keep the radiant heat off me.

i gotta clean my shop soon....

[blueflame glass worxs]

>>>>>>>>>know what ..you work the way your confortable ...blackink IM sure your confortable...three thirty ONE...IM sure your confortable... ME IM confortable ether befor I start or after ....I CLEAN up..thers no right or wrong whats good for you may not be for others organisation...GOOD.

[hashmasta-kut]

glass guy, stroker is just speaking about the limits of how much heat you can take. i dont like burning my hands either, and its pretty much impossible with 18inch handles and a phantom raging. we are just trying to help from our own epxerience, not tell blackink he is a bad person, merely that most likely his workspace may be too narrow.

[p.j.]

It's 4 ft across, most of the time it works just fine. I usually break down tubes into 2-3 foot lengths and haven't had a problem. I guess I could pull out the concrete block if I need more punty room.

all you have to do is build a small wood shelf like 6x6x8 or 10 that you can mount to the front of the table to put your torch on, then your torch is out of the cubby hole, you will still be getting max venting of the gasses, but you won't be limited by the size of the glass you are working. you can attack your torch from multiple angles also, which makes some welds on bigger pieces easier

[blueflame glass worxs]

P.J. your so right ....when blackink is ready he will mostlikely make them ajustment.HASHMASTA-KUT ....IM sorry I guess I was just talking out of turn ...I do know what I read ..and on top of that why didn t strorker speak to me ..himself instead of you speaking for him...from what I have seen he (331) dose pretty good work infact in 2 meadiums. IM on this forum to help not to belittle others DID either of you maybe think hes not making large work like STORKER andyou are?...HELP DON T HINDER..cuz it dont take much to hinder.

[STROKER]

^^^yeah kut, quit talkin for me and bein a hindrance!! haha.

glassguy you have certainly been entertaining if nothing else since you have become part of this fine forum of glass blob makers.

we have ask you repeatedly but i will do so once again.

please post pics of some of your work in the pics and galleries section as i think i speak for all of us on here when i say we are very curious as to what you actually produce.

you have spoke of countless years experience yet not one pic to show for it??

later,

[Earl]

Here's mine, I'm a neat freak..

[LTD]

^^looks great, other than the spare goggles lenses down.... I like it

[Kevin Bumble]

does yer ass hole look like that.....


cuz...

[Kevin Bumble]

man i lovea mustange

[blueflame glass worxs]

stroker ....just remember we all have a profiles here on this forum im not and never did question your work but IM not going to stoup either.I will say IM sorry for not posting Im not to sharp on the pc in knowing how to do what I need to do to post pics ...JAY you have my ward as soon as i can i will post ..and then you and all the rest can pick it a part ....keep in mind i dont have to do any thing except....pay taxes and die........ jay chillOUT.

[Icarus]

Spelling, grammar, punctuation. What is there not to love about the English language?

[CripSkillz]

I dont love that I need to press 2 for english.. wtf...

[STROKER]

I dont love that I need to press 2 for english.. wtf...

ha ha , you are a minority your a white , male..:D

[Icarus]

I dont love that I need to press 2 for english.. wtf...

You don't need to, start yelling and swearing. Most newer automated systems will send you through immediately to a rep if if sounds like you are upset. Otherwise press 1, a good majority of the time you'll get to speak to a rep that speaks Spanish as a second language. Sometimes the wait queues are even shorter to speak with the Spanish speaking reps. And if they don't speak English well, they'll transfer you to another rep, and it'll still probably be quicker than waiting in the queue.

Wait, what were we talking about again?

[hashmasta-kut]

i am not sure if you realize but most of your posts come off as quite bossy really. its not too likeable always going around and telling people what to do, especially IN CAPITALS..


stroker ....just remember we all have a profiles here on this forum im not and never did question your work but IM not going to stoup either.I will say IM sorry for not posting Im not to sharp on the pc in knowing how to do what I need to do to post pics ...JAY you have my ward as soon as i can i will post ..and then you and all the rest can pick it a part ....keep in mind i dont have to do any thing except....pay taxes and die........ jay chillOUT.

[blueflame glass worxs]

say what you want KUT and to you and anybody eles IF i came off that way ..IM sorry but thats me can you bring up one...or more? thanks anyway thanks for your input..FLAMEON.

[hashmasta-kut]

one or more what, incidences of that which i speak of? go back thru this thread, you capitalize your orders to others a few times, at least a couple posts, i'm sure :)

[blueflame glass worxs]

yes i capitalize,.and CANT order anyone ,seems that you might be {by what your saying im trying to order people, come on man we should be talking about glass blowing {lampworking},somthing other then this,what is it you need to here/read.what i see coming from you is ...LETS JUST SAY YOUR TRYING TO get me in trouble with the forum ITS ok if thats what it is ID rather talk about the glasswork, what do ya think KUT?

[blackink]

come on buddies...
when I first read Stroker's comment, I thought he was telling me that my setup was inadequate. But, I counted to 5 and tried to explain why my bench was designed that way. No hurt feelings here. I don't mind breaking tubes down and keeping my mess to a minimum. I actually wear kevlar arm protectors if I'm doing any serious tube prep.
Moral of the story?
Try not to assume, because that just makes an ass out of u and me. Can't we all get along?

-Blackink

[hashmasta-kut]

you have to wear kevlar cuz your workspace is so narrow, we agree on that i think. who is assuming anyhow, dont go calling people names now :)

[blueflame glass worxs]

WELL PUT BLACKINK, I understood you but some didnt ,good luck with your glass & your art work wish you all the best....FLAMEON. I truely HOPE they got it.

[LTD]

old bench...
http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu23/LBaylieoner/012-3.jpg
http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu23/LBaylieoner/011-7.jpg
http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu23/LBaylieoner/010-8.jpg


New bench...
http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu23/LBaylieoner/014-2.jpg
http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu23/LBaylieoner/013-2.jpg
I have added a lot since this pic. And the wall the exhaust is on is a little different

[blueflame glass worxs]

baylie is your work area inthe basement or some where eles ,any way looks comfortable,nice pics

[LTD]

Both the old and new bench are/were in enclosed porches. New one is much better. Concrete floor, much wider. Old shop had me working with my back against the wall. I am in the process of converting an out building. Will post pics when it is done. I will have a deeper bench.:bouncy:

[Icarus]

come on buddies...
when I first read Stroker's comment, I thought he was telling me that my setup was inadequate. But, I counted to 5 and tried to explain why my bench was designed that way. No hurt feelings here. I don't mind breaking tubes down and keeping my mess to a minimum. I actually wear kevlar arm protectors if I'm doing any serious tube prep.
Moral of the story?
Try not to assume, because that just makes an ass out of u and me. Can't we all get along?

-Blackink

I've never understood how assuming made an ass of the assumed upon and the assumer. Wouldn't it just be the assumer?

Glassguy, your posts hurt my eyes to read. Seriously, I'll lend you some periods and commas and properly capitalized words. You don't even have to return them.

[blueflame glass worxs]

Icarus, im sorry i hurt your eyes iwas ignorent to the cap thing its all been pretty much clairafied to me ,can we move on now? we should be chating about glass work .and in this thread its obout being nasti or neat.oh i hope your eyes get better real soon ,later red eyes oh i mean Icarus ha ha.

[LTD]

Mine is kinda cluttered right now...
http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu23/LBaylieoner/001-5.jpg
http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu23/LBaylieoner/002-5.jpg
http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu23/LBaylieoner/003-7.jpg

[TlkQ]

That is spotless compared to mine lol. I'll take a pic in the morning.

[CripSkillz]

ya no shit thats cleaner than mine when I clean it lol

[Riehlsassy]

Hi everyone I'm new here and have been lurking a bit. I built my own studio in my garage about 8 years ago. It only looks this clean becuase soon after I completed it I decided ot sell my house and would have random showings. I'm only posting this because I have been out of the loop for about the same amount of time and in the process of setting up a studio again. Figured this would be a good spot to log my first post.

[RedToroBoro]

Damn girl that Shop is the shit. I'd be afraid to work in there. If thats your garage your house must be on MTV cribs. Lol :):)

Your place is nice and welcome to the Pot.

[LTD]

Damn!! Nice spot fancy pants...lol. What kind of stuff do you make? That is super classy.

[CripSkillz]

you must not have a wife or that room would have been done long time ago heheeh

[jes]

WOWzers that looks pretty nice...

[B-Rye-oNeR]

that's your garage!>?!? ...Jesus, you should see the garage I work in , I may post pics just for comic relief.

[B-Rye-oNeR]

ps.LTD: where did u get that sweet-ass yolk style bench roller?

[LTD]

ps.LTD: where did u get that sweet-ass yolk style bench roller?

I really can't remember. I have had it for a very long time... 6-7 years. I may have picked it up from another lamper here? I painted it purple myself. Sustainable designs has a SWEET toke set up, you can get it from them or Glasscraft.

[LTD]

I may have picked it up at The Vinery in Madison Wi....

[Riehlsassy]

I was the only person within a hundred miles at the time that made pipes. I had many wealthy clients that felt comfortable walking into the studio, presentation is everything in some instances. By no means did I pocess the skills that many of you'all do, but I was ok. I was set up so that when they came in, they could pick all there own colors. Eveyone would have their own set of glasses to wear so they could watch me make there peice. Next day they would come and pick it up.

Also I'm a girl.....so thats just how we rolll!!! :D

[Headdi Retti's Glass Art Studio]

Damn Girl, I likey the way you Roll, you Roll real nice! With a place like that I'd be Rhel sassy too.lol! Your studio is beautiful, awesome and beats the Hell outta my converted goat shed, complete with dirt floor! Hehh heh hheee!. I'am working on it but this, WOW I Whould move into, and never leave, if my studio looked like that. Madd props for you girl!, you Roll on, ahem I mean Melt On!, my glass S:chilling:ista!

[RedToroBoro]

Hell ya, we need more girls shops that look like that. After all that is nicer than a Hair studio;) Role on!

[metalbone]

LTD, sweet set-up.

[LTD]

LTD, sweet set-up.

Thank you very much. I had to raise the bench top a little to keep my back straight. The best part o the bench is the location. I am in a shop with 20+ great folks who keep me pushing my limits. If any of you went to the DFO you might recognize the spot. I love this place!

[hashmasta-kut]

ya no shit thats cleaner than mine when I clean it lol



ya that me too.

[LTD]

clean environment= clean work for me

[hashmasta-kut]

on the messy side today, as usual :)

[Campy]

Didnt know u were rocking a custom Kobuki. Nice Kut, jealous...Other than that ur bench looks like uve been busy!

[B-Rye-oNeR]

I thought mine was bad...mines mostly used handles and little pcs of broken stringer tho.

[ZombieGlass]

God I love red walls. LTD that looks snazzy and organized. Just how I like it!

[Aaron Ellis]

Thank god I'm not the only dirty bastard behind a torch. Don't have pics but think I might be in a tie with Luna

[Aaron Ellis]

We aren't messy we are chaoticly organized?

[Ronin]

the only reason mine looks as good as it does is because at the end of the day I have to pick up my toys.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c251/LouisCipher777/NewSetup.jpg

[Dom]

lol that is awesome, I wonder what your neighor is thinking when he is grilling.