dildos/safty/legalities?

**WORLD FAMOUS** · 02-09-2007, 07:57 PM

I've never heard a legit-sounding story about breakage either...I think it's probably a story some douchebag made up back in the day to keep people out of his market. That's my guess. I wouldn't worry about the legalities if you know what you are doing with glass, and just doing a few for friends/acquaintances. If you are starting a dilly company, then I think you may have some legal obligations for insurance and such.

**menty666** · 02-09-2007, 08:55 PM

I'm just guessing that the legal wink and a nod here is the disclaimer all these toys usually carry that says "sold as a novelty only".

Having said that, maybe I should make a novelty for my wife but make sure it anneals over a couple of days to make sure it's good and sturdy.

**Meerkat** · 02-09-2007, 10:23 PM

I am glad this thread started up, as I bought some dilly stock and am going to start doing this myself, I have not seen any glass dills for sale anywhere and with the limited number of boro workers in Oz, its not like I would have much competition, so it seems like a good way to go.

Unfortunetly my kiln is busted right now so its iportant I fix that so I can anneal properly, and I am going to build a polariscope. I dont know where to buy polarized filters, but while digging through some stuff I found these paper glasses they give you to watch 3-D movies and they are using polaraized pieces of plastic for the lenses, they are only about 2"x2" but I figure I could build a small polariscope with those. I could even make it portable with a flashlight as the light source to show to explain to sex shops what stress and annealing is all about.

But still I do wonder about the legalities, as it is possible for someone to be stupid and to drop their dilly on a concrete floor and chip or crack it and then just keep on using it and then it could crack on them and cut them up. I think I am going to include a little card with each one talking about proper use and care and to inspect them before each use for chips and cracks.

**Meerkat** · 02-09-2007, 10:30 PM

I am also wondering what the limits of my Mirage are, how thick of a rod can I work ? I think i definetly need to invest in some rollers and these are gonna be heavy. Does anyone have plans for homebuilt rollers ? I have heard about making some out of skateboard wheels mounted on a block of wood.

**mistahead** · 02-10-2007, 01:34 AM

thanks for all the responses guys!!
def gonna get/make a polariscope, and deffinetly get some rollers meerkat, your gonna need um for the dills!!

**Shatner** · 02-10-2007, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by Meerkat

I am also wondering what the limits of my Mirage are, how thick of a rod can I work ? I think i definetly need to invest in some rollers and these are gonna be heavy. Does anyone have plans for homebuilt rollers ? I have heard about making some out of skateboard wheels mounted on a block of wood.

I wouldn't worry about your Mirage. I haven't run into anything mine cant handle.

**WORLD FAMOUS** · 02-10-2007, 01:01 PM

For sure ^^^ I've done a bunch of pornstar sized toys on the Phantom.

**Jerry Gash** · 02-10-2007, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by Meerkat

I am glad this thread started up, as I bought some dilly stock and am going to start doing this myself, I have not seen any glass dills for sale anywhere and with the limited number of boro workers in Oz, its not like I would have much competition, so it seems like a good way to go.

Unfortunetly my kiln is busted right now so its iportant I fix that so I can anneal properly, and I am going to build a polariscope. I dont know where to buy polarized filters, but while digging through some stuff I found these paper glasses they give you to watch 3-D movies and they are using polaraized pieces of plastic for the lenses, they are only about 2"x2" but I figure I could build a small polariscope with those. I could even make it portable with a flashlight as the light source to show to explain to sex shops what stress and annealing is all about.

But still I do wonder about the legalities, as it is possible for someone to be stupid and to drop their dilly on a concrete floor and chip or crack it and then just keep on using it and then it could crack on them and cut them up. I think I am going to include a little card with each one talking about proper use and care and to inspect them before each use for chips and cracks.

I wonder how many women actually carefully inspect their glass dilly before use......hmmmm.

**UmaJulz** · 02-10-2007, 01:31 PM

Uh, they should... like when they're washing it... unless they use the dishwasher.

**Meerkat** · 02-10-2007, 09:17 PM

Since I am also going to be doing this as soon as I get my kiln fixed, I am starting to think about pricing.... Most of the properly made glass dills have always been high priced (which I think is good), around $100 or higher depending on the work that went into them. Granted I have seen all the cheap import glass dills going for around $20 sometimes less. But I am wondering what a good price is for a proper made, local one ?

Take for example, lets say were making just a clear dildo, not too elaborate, I would take my 30mm diameter chunk of rod, that was say 30cm (12 inches) long, and that cost me about about $26 AUD ($20 USD) per meter, so that 30cm (12 inch) length cost about $8 AUD ($6.20 USD). and let's just say it takes about a half hour in a raging outer flame to make it into the curves, ridges and shape I want. Then of course there is annealing time and the cost of the electricity to do that.

So we got appx $7 USD in glass (counting punties and other glass used), a half hours worth of oxy/propane in a raging flame and appx 5 to 6 hours of kiln time (electricity rates will vary).. but just looking at that, its probably no more than $20 USD in total costs, and $20 labour costs for a half hours work is more than good for something simple. So $50 USD sounds like a really good and fair price, yet I have seen clear ones going for $100 USD or more. And if you do any research at high end sex shops (ie not sleazy sketchy ones) you will see that they sell silicone dildos for over $100 and thats just someone pouring liquid into a mold and letting it cure. So I think that when it comes to glass dills, a higher price is reasonable, no ?

**ech** · 02-10-2007, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by Jerry Gash

I wonder how many women actually carefully inspect their glass dilly before use......hmmmm.

I would hope all would...

**Jerry Gash** · 02-10-2007, 09:43 PM

Originally Posted by ech

I would hope all would...

I guess you just never really see women inspecting their dilly's before ramming themselves with them.....heh or atleast they msu have edited that part out in the norp i got.

**Wierdeer** · 02-10-2007, 10:44 PM

Never had you break either No complaints! never made any with color though.
not my usual product

**Wierdeer** · 02-10-2007, 10:44 PM

woops

**UmaJulz** · 02-11-2007, 10:13 AM

Pricing: 3 X materials + time @ $60/hour US minimum = ballpark price, but I don't know if that would be a good retail or not. From your numbers in your post, you've got $21 for mat'l + $30 time + kiln time... $50 is too low. But then again, I wouldn't pay $50 for a 1 1/4" toy, ever. You've got to think Big and Impressive- it has to be bigger and better than the average joy stick.

**mistahead** · 02-11-2007, 05:02 PM

^^^^LOL!!! now thats a woman!!!

**Pilgrim** · 02-11-2007, 08:25 PM

like i said tubing is the way to go less gathering time .. more color oppisions less stress threw the thickness that could and usally do cause problems, tubbing will take more abuse then solid rod 'example ' drop 8 inces of road and heavey wall tubbing see witch one breaks.
and pricing for a quality produce should start at 125 and up...
Scottland, FredHead Glass...

**puddletown** · 02-12-2007, 10:01 AM

I have made a few of these in my adventures with glass, and done some product testing. We took some clear glass toys and dropped them on a cement floor from varying heights, ! foot, 2 feet, etc. It took untill almost 4 feet off the ground for there to be any serious damage to be done to the dill.

If you guys want to check out the market and whats for sale out there check these guys out.

www.phallix.com

just a guide

I personally wouldn't make any hollow ones

**UmaJulz** · 02-12-2007, 10:52 AM

Checked out a bunch of those sites... now I know where the term "dinky" came from... "1" in diameter! 4" of penetration!" and that is supposed to be satisfying? nyuk nyuk nyuk, goof balls...

**Jerry Gash** · 02-12-2007, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by UmaJulz

Checked out a bunch of those sites... now I know where the term "dinky" came from... "1" in diameter! 4" of penetration!" and that is supposed to be satisfying? nyuk nyuk nyuk, goof balls...

Now i kinda feel insecure about myself....