Invacare Oxygen Concentrators and Homefills

**OxygenTech** · 03-17-2012, 04:31 PM

Hello everyone in the forum and the glass community.
I am a respiratory provider in Southern California since the mid 1990's.
We have been providing a non-delivery model for oxygen patients (read patient fill systems, e.g. Homefill, Ultrafill) since they first came out. I typically have a large inventory of homefill's and concentrators on hand.
I can get my hands on any parts still made, manuals, tips, tricks, or anything I can do to help.
I usually post my excess equipment on craigslist, and in the last 24 hours had 3 inquiries about homefills for the glass blowing community. That is how I found out about this forum. I sold 2 by walk in yesterday.

I have 35 homefills in excess at the moment, along with their corresponding platinum 5 concentrator. I closed my LA warehouse and I am currently palletizing my excess inventory.

If you would like a homefill, invacare concentrator, 5 LPM, 10 LPM, let me know.

Here is a tip for you, if your platinum 5 is alarming for purity, check the 4 way valve, the old style with the chrome ball bearing tends to crack. Good news, lifetime warranty on most of those. It gets sent back as a core to Invacare, and you get a new one. The most important filter to change is the small round filter, not the hepa.

I ship portable concentrators around the country every day, so sending a homefill or a stationary unit would be no problem.

**Deez** · 03-17-2012, 05:08 PM

what kind of prices we talking about. for a concentrator+homefill set up?

**apixdesign** · 03-17-2012, 05:24 PM

If its a good price il buy a homefill!

**drew1492** · 03-17-2012, 07:07 PM

So being an oxygen company what is the main difference between the homefill and homefill II I have never used an original homefill?

**Denial** · 03-17-2012, 08:03 PM

I've been waiting for a homefill for awhile now, just not ready to spend over a grand to be able to start filling my tanks.. So, I'm also waiting on prices, I'd really like to get one of these thought if it's within reason ( to me ) lol.

**styles1 torchlife** · 03-17-2012, 08:47 PM

prices?????

**OxygenTech** · 03-17-2012, 11:01 PM

The first and second generation homefills had a few differences, I would say there are more likely at least 3 generations. Most of the improvements if you could call them that were on the patient side of things. The very first generation did not have a regulator built in. The bottles were meant to be used by the patients with a battery operated conserving device that extended the useful life of the oxygen in the tank...blah blah blah. Then the bottles had a Precision Medical OCD (oxygen conserving device) fitted. That was nice, because the patient didn't have to change a regulator. Patients dropped the bottles and broke the oxygen nipples off, so the next improvement was a black cover over the nipple. On the compressor side of things the size of the coupler was reduced and green dots added to reduce the number of questions related to "is the bottle on the compressor' from our elderly population. The connection from the concentrator to the compressor, formerly a straight tube, now a tube curled like an old hard line telephone was also a change. The color of the base changed from maroon to black fairly recently. As far as changes internally, I will take a photo of a older and newer unit topless.

**OxygenTech** · 03-17-2012, 11:08 PM

As far as price, I would propose to offer a Homefill, concentrator, and 'whip', complete and shipped for between $850 and $900. I should have some solid prices on the whip after speaking with the company who fills my tanks for me next week. I probably also need to consult our attorney as to the liability of providing a complete 'whip' to an end user or just the parts that may be assembled at the user's discretion...hmm.

**JDeMoss** · 03-17-2012, 11:17 PM

How long would it take to fill a k tank roughly? And if I already have a concentrator, how much for the homefill and anything else I would need to fill my tank?

Thanks

**CHSWIIMV** · 03-18-2012, 10:40 AM

I'm wonderin what JDeMoss is wondering ^^ . How much for just the Homefill and necessary equipment? Im in Los Angeles though so I could pick it up from you to save some shipping costs.

**akmewon** · 03-18-2012, 11:07 AM

guess i cant read

**Monkythrowpoop** · 03-18-2012, 01:13 PM

I think they're asking how much without the concentrator.

**puddletown** · 03-18-2012, 11:12 PM

How much are they for a walk in deal?
And can ya cut us a little deal if we get two complete setups?

**OxygenTech** · 03-19-2012, 07:11 PM

Sorry for the slow response to PMs. I usually put in long days at the office, and have a busy other life coaching and being an umpire for little league baseball, making lunches for and doing homework with 2 boys. On top of all that I have a crucial RFP that must be completed in order to continue to service a large segment of my respiratory patients. The RFP part will at least be over with by the end of March, so if I'm a bit slow responding, that is why.

Now, onto some interesting homefill for the glass blowing community news. I had a visit by another member of Talkglass, and spent a fair amount of looking at some designs as laid out on the forum. My goal is to see if I can refine the connections a bit, get good pricing on the bits I need from my suppliers, get 'what if' technical questions answered to my inside tech support guy, and test several different concentrators at various PSI to find the best combination of concentrator and homefill.

If all goes well I'll be filling my first H tank (~7100L ) tomorrow, and then I can have a baseline.

As I told my visitor today, there are a number of things that can effect he performance of an oxygen concentrator, one of which is the other load on the circuit to which the homefill and concentrator are plugged into. I'll run my tests on dedicated lines.

**OxygenTech** · 03-19-2012, 07:13 PM

Originally Posted by JDeMoss

How long would it take to fill a k tank roughly? And if I already have a concentrator, how much for the homefill and anything else I would need to fill my tank?

Thanks

Shoot me a PM please.

**OxygenTech** · 03-19-2012, 07:14 PM

I'll have the 'necessary equipment' part of that figured out hopefully by tomorrow, and I'll get back to you both with an answer.

**CoreysCollectables** · 03-19-2012, 10:33 PM

I was the visitor to OxygenTech's warehouse today... and what a pleasure! We discussed several of the oxygen filling ideas that we saw here on The Melting Pot. To respect the privacy of OxygenTech and his business in the medical field, I will not post his private information, rather I ask that you PM him using this social networking website.

A little back story. I was in search for a way to fill my tanks just like everyone else browsing these forums. I had done extensive research in to what type of system would best suit my needs. After many, many hours of reading and researching this topic, I concluded that converting a Homefill unit was my best option. And so I started my search. Naturally I turned to craigslist. Weeding thru the mess of private sellers, I found OxygenTech. A real professional in the field. Helping him discover the untapped potential for his refurbished oxygen equipment, he went on to creating an account here to share the news. There's a new place in town to get your Oxygen.

As a glass artist, there are really only a few major places to get an oxygen concentrator or compressor. They are all refurbished units sold as new. The only way to get an absolutely new unit is to have a medical perspiration. Lucky for us, we aren't breathing this stuff, we're burning it! So a used unit will do. But then the question truly is, "How used?", and "Who refurbished it?".

This is where I will give OxygenTech and his company my full recommendation. Not only was he very polite in answering any questions I had over the phone, his customer service in person was outstanding! He was happy to open up both Invacare units to show me how they worked, what commonly goes wrong, and how to do basic maintenance. He went thru the machines to get me the one's with the lowest hours... (Homefill: 38 hours! and the Platinum 5: 2200 hours) Each of these units are rated for so much more: Homefill:5000h and P5:50,000h. He even tossed in the hoses, the stand, and a couple extra filters to keep me going. All in all, OxygenTech and his team are total professionals that stand behind their products.

I can feel confident in my purchase because I know that in a couple of years, when I need some parts for servicing my units, or have any questions in the meantime, OxygenTech and his team will be there for me. After the experience I had at his warehouse today, I can highly recommend that you get your oxygen equipment from someone who services and maintains these units on a daily basis! There is no aftermarket reseller that has the insider knowledge that OxygenTech does.

I cannot say Thank You enough! OxygenTech listened to my needs and concerns, and addressed them all. From the professionalism to the customer service, OxygenTech and his team are simply the best. Make the right choice, get your oxygen equipment from someone that cares about you. Private Message OxygenTech today!

Much love and many blessings,
Corey M.

www.CoreysCollectables.com

Originally Posted by OxygenTech

Now, onto some interesting homefill for the glass blowing community news. I had a visit by another member of Talkglass, and spent a fair amount of looking at some designs as laid out on the forum. My goal is to see if I can refine the connections a bit, get good pricing on the bits I need from my suppliers, get 'what if' technical questions answered to my inside tech support guy, and test several different concentrators at various PSI to find the best combination of concentrator and homefill.

If all goes well I'll be filling my first H tank (~7100L ) tomorrow, and then I can have a baseline.

As I told my visitor today, there are a number of things that can effect he performance of an oxygen concentrator, one of which is the other load on the circuit to which the homefill and concentrator are plugged into. I'll run my tests on dedicated lines.

**CoreysCollectables** · 03-20-2012, 02:22 AM

Damn Spellcheck... I clicked on the wrong option. ***The only way to get an absolutely new unit is to have a medical ***prescription***. Ahh... Just had to get that out.

**Icarus** · 03-20-2012, 03:53 AM

Originally Posted by CoreysCollectables

Damn Spellcheck... I clicked on the wrong option. ***The only way to get an absolutely new unit is to have a medical ***prescription***. Ahh... Just had to get that out.

I was wondering about that.

**Samson** · 03-20-2012, 05:08 AM

Might want to start working on that vendor badge just in case you haven't heard about it. Welcome to the forum. I want one so I'll be keeping a eye on this thread.

saw a post by Mer with this in it: http://www.talkglass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24912 - hope it helps 8)