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Old 02-04-2009, 07:10 PM
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Icon4 Restore The Republic...

until we the people, stand and voice our
disgust over the way, our country is being
systematically destroyed, buy greed and
corruption, the endless parade of clowns
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Damn straight end the Fed! I right with ya. Course I probly could make a shitload of cash blowing the glass pods for them verichips.....hmmm.
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A new bill was JUST reintroduced with that very same goal in mind.

H.R. 833: To abolish the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System and the Federal reserve banks, to repeal the Federal Reserve Act.

But its nice to see the general ideal of resisting the federal reserves wish to abolish the people. Is starting to become some what main stream.

But abolishing the reserve will only be good if we don't just let them start up a with whole new more insidious reserve bank with a new name. Like when it used to be "called the national bank" Then the some bankers got right back together and instead made a new bank and decided to use 2 bogus words to imply legitimacy. FEDERAL to make it sound as if its some thing to do with the government and not privet bankers. And the word RESERVE.

It sounds even more official then national bank and taking the world bank out of the name makes it look like they aren't the world biggest privately owned bank.

But I'm sure they will get H.R. 645 passed first so there won't be no more of this talk about taking down the president and congress's employer/boss.

The Boss men in the reserve will make sure of that. They tell there subordinates what they do or don't do not the other way around.

For they hold and control the money supply.
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so right you are... ron paul is still in there for us and
H.R. 833 was introduced buy him... we will see who
will back this bill and find out where the problem is...
soon, i will start working on getting my rights restored...
i'm ready to make my voice heard and count for
something....

smutty, you know your stuff and you carry a good
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Na I don't like the politics and won't take office if it was giving to me even. At least in the present form of government by politics and force.

I'm to old fashion and believe in all sorts of "un American" stuff like the continuation. Freedom to live your life with out tyranny.
Government by the people for the people.
Government issued currency not privet foreign bank issued.
you know all them old out dated coo coo things like honest government and stupid stuff like that.



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soon, i will start working on getting my rights restored...
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Thats one good import thing to bring up. Even tho The bill don't have a shot I hell of passing. But Only a crook or a dumbfuck could ever vote to keep the fed.
NO one could openly support a entity that by its very own charter and reason for being is to systematically rob the country of its wealth and put it in the hands of the privet banks that own the federal reserve. With out being in on it.

So it is one of them bills that exposes who's in on the scam and who knows whats up and isn't going to be part of it. So the 6 or 7 guys that vote to abolish the fed will be the ones that still have our backs.

They will probably be the only ones to vote against hr 645 and all the zombie politicians that vote to keep the fed will be the same ones that vote for more fema camps and more civilian work camps.

You know for our own good tho.
and they aren't really for real either and these are just fake words and this bill don't really exist and fema don't exist either. lol lol its just make believe that politicians even think of stuff like this hr 645 :-(

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111th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. R. 645
To direct the Secretary of Homeland Security to establish national emergency centers on military installations.


IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

January 22, 2009
Mr. HASTINGS of Florida introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, and in addition to the Committee on Armed Services, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned


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A BILL
To direct the Secretary of Homeland Security to establish national emergency centers on military installations.


Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `National Emergency Centers Establishment Act'.

SEC. 2. ESTABLISHMENT OF NATIONAL EMERGENCY CENTERS.

(a) In General- In accordance with the requirements of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall establish not fewer than 6 national emergency centers on military installations.

(b) Purpose of National Emergency Centers- The purpose of a national emergency center shall be to use existing infrastructure--

(1) to provide temporary housing, medical, and humanitarian assistance to individuals and families dislocated due to an emergency or major disaster;

(2) to provide centralized locations for the purposes of training and ensuring the coordination of Federal, State, and local first responders;

(3) to provide centralized locations to improve the coordination of preparedness, response, and recovery efforts of government, private, and not-for-profit entities and faith-based organizations; and

(4) to meet other appropriate needs, as determined by the Secretary of Homeland Security.

SEC. 3. DESIGNATION OF MILITARY INSTALLATIONS AS NATIONAL EMERGENCY CENTERS.

(a) In General- Not later than 60 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Secretary of Defense, shall designate not fewer than 6 military installations as sites for the establishment of national emergency centers.

(b) Minimum Requirements- A site designated as a national emergency center shall be--

(1) capable of meeting for an extended period of time the housing, health, transportation, education, public works, humanitarian and other transition needs of a large number of individuals affected by an emergency or major disaster;

(2) environmentally safe and shall not pose a health risk to individuals who may use the center;

(3) capable of being scaled up or down to accommodate major disaster preparedness and response drills, operations, and procedures;

(4) capable of housing existing permanent structures necessary to meet training and first responders coordination requirements during nondisaster periods;

(5) capable of hosting the infrastructure necessary to rapidly adjust to temporary housing, medical, and humanitarian assistance needs;

(6) required to consist of a complete operations command center, including 2 state-of-the art command and control centers that will comprise a 24/7 operations watch center as follows:

(A) one of the command and control centers shall be in full ready mode; and

(B) the other shall be used daily for training; and

(7) easily accessible at all times and be able to facilitate handicapped and medical facilities, including during an emergency or major disaster.

(c) Location of National Emergency Centers- There shall be established not fewer than one national emergency center in each of the following areas:

(1) The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Regions I, II, and III.

(2) The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Region IV.

(3) The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Regions V and VII.

(4) The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Region VI.

(5) The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Regions VIII and X.

(6) The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Region IX.

(d) Preference for Designation of Closed Military Installations- Wherever possible, the Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Secretary of Defense, shall designate a closed military installation as a site for a national emergency center. If the Secretaries of Homeland Security and Defense jointly determine that there is not a sufficient number of closed military installations that meet the requirements of subsections (b) and (c), the Secretaries shall jointly designate portions of existing military installations other than closed military installations as national emergency centers.

(e) Transfer of Control of Closed Military Installations- If a closed military installation is designated as a national emergency center, not later than 180 days after the date of designation, the Secretary of Defense shall transfer to the Secretary of Homeland Security administrative jurisdiction over such closed military installation.

(f) Cooperative Agreement for Joint Use of Existing Military Installations- If an existing military installation other than a closed military installation is designated as a national emergency center, not later than 180 days after the date of designation, the Secretary of Homeland Security and the Secretary of Defense shall enter into a cooperative agreement to provide for the establishment of the national emergency center.

(g) Reports-

(1) PRELIMINARY REPORT- Not later than 90 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security, acting jointly with the Secretary of Defense, shall submit to Congress a report that contains for each designated site--

(A) an outline of the reasons why the site was selected;

(B) an outline of the need to construct, repair, or update any existing infrastructure at the site;

(C) an outline of the need to conduct any necessary environmental clean-up at the site;

(D) an outline of preliminary plans for the transfer of control of the site from the Secretary of Defense to the Secretary of Homeland Security, if necessary under subsection (e); and

(E) an outline of preliminary plans for entering into a cooperative agreement for the establishment of a national emergency center at the site, if necessary under subsection (f).

(2) UPDATE REPORT- Not later than 120 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security, acting jointly with the Secretary of Defense, shall submit to Congress a report that contains for each designated site--

(A) an update on the information contained in the report as required by paragraph (1);

(B) an outline of the progress made toward the transfer of control of the site, if necessary under subsection (e);

(C) an outline of the progress made toward entering a cooperative agreement for the establishment of a national emergency center at the site, if necessary under subsection (f); and

(D) recommendations regarding any authorizations and appropriations that may be necessary to provide for the establishment of a national emergency center at the site.

(3) FINAL REPORT- Not later than 1 year after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security, acting jointly with the Secretary of Defense, shall submit to Congress a report that contains for each designated site--

(A) finalized information detailing the transfer of control of the site, if necessary under subsection (e);

(B) the finalized cooperative agreement for the establishment of a national emergency center at the site, if necessary under subsection (f); and

(C) any additional information pertinent to the establishment of a national emergency center at the site.

(4) ADDITIONAL REPORTS- The Secretary of Homeland Security, acting jointly with the Secretary of Defense, may submit to Congress additional reports as necessary to provide updates on steps being taken to meet the requirements of this Act.

SEC. 4. LIMITATIONS ON STATUTORY CONSTRUCTION.

This Act does not affect--

(1) the authority of the Federal Government to provide emergency or major disaster assistance or to implement any disaster mitigation and response program, including any program authorized by the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act (42 U.S.C. 5121 et seq.); or

(2) the authority of a State or local government to respond to an emergency.

SEC. 5. AUTHORIZATION OF APPROPRIATIONS.

There is authorized to be appropriated $180,000,000 for each of fiscal years 2009 and 2010 to carry out this Act. Such funds shall remain available until expended.

SEC. 6. DEFINITIONS.

In this Act, the following definitions apply:

(1) CLOSED MILITARY INSTALLATION- The term `closed military installation' means a military installation, or portion thereof, approved for closure or realignment under the Defense Base Closure and Realignment Act of 1990 (part A of title XXIX of Public Law 101-510; 10 U.S.C. 2687 note) that meet all, or 2 out of the 3 following requirements:

(A) Is located in close proximity to a transportation corridor.

(B) Is located in a State with a high level or threat of disaster related activities.

(C) Is located near a major metropolitan center.

(2) EMERGENCY- The term `emergency' has the meaning given such term in section 102 of the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act (42 U.S.C. 5122).

(3) MAJOR DISASTER- The term `major disaster' has the meaning given such term in section 102 of the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act (42 U.S.C. 5122).

(4) MILITARY INSTALLATION- The term `military installation' has the meaning given such term in section 2910 of the Defense Base Closure and Realignment Act of 1990 (part A of title XXIX of Public Law 101-510; 10 U.S.C. 2687 note).
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funny that you mention tyranny....

check this story out...

Stimulating Tyranny

coming to a door step near you and me or what...???
sounds like the things i warned about, way back
when they first started this "drug-related forfeiture"
and the seizure of privet property, for any reason...

in my county, well over 50% of forfeitures, are later
order to be returned... of course, most of the time,
said property, has been liquidated and they are
responsible to pay, what they sold if for, at auction...
as far as personal belongings, if they didn't sell, they
had no value and the people get nothing...

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Ya that was pretty messed up. That was in the news right around the time the thing with the governor in Il scandal broke. Then there han't been much about.
it.

But on something I din't notice when that was all in the news before was that in was in Prince George's County.

That is one messed up place. Some friend of ours lived in that county. to much messed up stuff to even list.
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Those fofeiture laws are real BS. Mostly because when your property is seized it goes through "in rem" processing, I beleive it's called, which basically means that since it's property being tried for participating in crime it doesn't have rights so due process and all that can be bypassed, so most the time it's near impossible to fight anything. Also, a lot of the time the seized property goes directly to the courts and police departments so even you can fight it it's not likely to be fair. That COPS program and the Federal Byrne justice assistance grant program that are in the new stimulus package would be kinda scary, because they'd basically make those laws more succeptable to abuse and corruption than they already are.
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It's all gonna collapse soon...hopefully. The system is corrupted beyond beliefe. The government cannot afford to borrow fake money from the fed reserve anymore because the interest is so damn high. It can't be paid back. the federal reserve practically owns us.

Corporations are going to run this country until it crashes because their intrests are in the wrong places. They think they can continue making the public believe oil is scarce. the internet has made all of this possible...people now have the ability to learn about anything. if we could just learn to let go of oil and focus on local clean energy from local companies the Corp.'s would crash.


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It's all gonna collapse soon...hopefully. .
Having followed this economy mess from the outcome, I've got to concede my earlier views this will be fixed in any manner . The probability that everyone involved in money markets missed this thing winding up is nil. Zero. It's mind chilling to realize a BIG play is in action. I truly had hope with anyone but Bush and the boys driving, but this is not going to play out well. We are fucked and plucked. The G7 group met at the end of the week and aside from the usual "we all have to work on this" bullshit, the focus was on keeping the trade borders open. "Globalization" will save us all. In fact, it has ruined us all. U.S. corporations moved across the globe to maximize profits, not to improve the quality of anyones life. If you still hold on to this premise, you are'nt sucking hard enough on that gas pipe. In fact, improving the wages anywhere runs counter to any corporate plan. Do you really think raising the standard of living anywhere else in the world to what ours was would be helpful to the bottom line? Not on your life. There's nothing left HERE to make,never mind sell. We're being asked to buy things in order to get the economy going. Because the US economy is 70%... 70 fucking percent.. consumer spending. Not building tractors or cars or producing steel. Just buying shit made elsewhere. On credit,no less. None of the billions being thrown around is for steel mills,or tractor factories. It's for the business of lending us more money to spend. And I tell you, we are fucked.

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On credit,no less. None of the billions being thrown around is for steel mills,or tractor factories. It's for the business of lending us more money to spend. And I tell you, we are fucked.

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Exactly...these corporations don't crae about "america". America is just a place to do business in to them. All we can do is hope those corporations collapse sooner than later.
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