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    Default Re: smoke bomb test, I wanna hear your thoughts!!!

    id take out the cabnits and build a hood in there place and just use ducting to duct it to your fan...i think its ur best bet... i dont think u need a strionger fan.. a 1350 cfm is what i think u said u had.. that should be good enough to clear out that space.. make a hood and duct the rest and ull be fine...make sure you use 16" ducting other wise ull loose CFM
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    good ideas yall! Im wondering if the rain cap that was on RV for the vent all ready is blocking alot of the air flow as well. Its not so easy to just run and get stuff in the RV so I def need a good plan
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    Cut the bottom out of the cabinet and put a fan in the wall behind it? Making the cabinet into a hood....
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    ditch the rain cap, yea probably obstructing flow, seriously? here is a link to windows for trailers, you just cut a hole, get some screws and sealant and go for it. http://www.motionwindows.com/prod1800.php

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    Quote Originally Posted by turtleglass View Post
    That board is there to direct the airflow since the fan is actually directly above my head when I work since that is where there was a vent hole in the ceiling all ready, and used to pull smoke around my head, the cabinets cant really come out, well they could prol but they are factory sealed in and wanted to avoid it.
    And that is the problem. You need a defined hood and it needs to be under cabinets that are over bench and it should pull/push directly out side of camper. The roof vent /fan is to small and in wrong location, it is not ventilation, its directed air flow for "breathing" only and not nearly sufficient for hot glass work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turtleglass View Post
    Its a in my opinion expensive RV so people advised against it, but I thought it was best Idea too. No auto body or RV shops that I called will do it though. I cant talk myself into cutting a hole into the side of my RV though.
    Then you might have to consider NOT working glass in RV. What arrangement does RV have for cooking stove?

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    Does it help to take off the rain cap when you work?

    My first vent system let some smoke linger like that, I regret working like that for many months. I doubled my fan size (2350) and increased the duct from 6 inch to 10 inch.

    Headaches, nausea, night sweats, general fatigue and lethargy. Definitely not worth it.

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    Default Re: smoke bomb test, I wanna hear your thoughts!!!

    If you are ina state park in Florida, why not just blow glass outside the trailor? It cant be that bad outside....

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    Turtle,

    DEFINITELY CONSIDER THE IDEA OF A MAKE UP AIR SYSTEM. THIS MEANS YOU NEED TO FORCE AIR IN TO THE WORK ZONE AND PRESSURIZE THE SHOP WITH POSITIVE AIR FLOW. THEN WITH A SLIGHTLY SMALLER EXHAUST FAN THE AIR WILL VENT TO THE PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE. THIS IS HOW ALL RESTAURANTS VENT THEIR KITCHENS.

    HOPE THIS HELPS!
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    Quote Originally Posted by glassnewb View Post
    If you are ina state park in Florida, why not just blow glass outside the trailor? It cant be that bad outside....

    Im in new Orleans its been about 40 degress last three days but up into fifties today and thats what Im goin to do till I get to texas and can have some people help me out with construction and maybe with rides to get stuff. I obviously need to get this working though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by elad65 View Post
    Then you might have to consider NOT working glass in RV. What arrangement does RV have for cooking stove?

    Elad

    Not an option my friend ~ and there is a vent above it that vents out the wall in front of stove
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    Quote Originally Posted by FredLight View Post
    Does it help to take off the rain cap when you work?

    My first vent system let some smoke linger like that, I regret working like that for many months. I doubled my fan size (2350) and increased the duct from 6 inch to 10 inch.

    Headaches, nausea, night sweats, general fatigue and lethargy. Definitely not worth it.

    I dont know about rain cap, Its on the roof and I cant really get to it at this moment since I have no ladder with me
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    Quote Originally Posted by elad65 View Post
    And that is the problem. You need a defined hood and it needs to be under cabinets that are over bench and it should pull/push directly out side of camper. The roof vent /fan is to small and in wrong location, it is not ventilation, its directed air flow for "breathing" only and not nearly sufficient for hot glass work.

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    I installed the attic fan under the 12" x 12" hole that was all ready in the roof, Im not using a fan that was in it allready. But I see what your saying
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    Quote Originally Posted by styles1 torchlife View Post
    Turtle,

    DEFINITELY CONSIDER THE IDEA OF A MAKE UP AIR SYSTEM. THIS MEANS YOU NEED TO FORCE AIR IN TO THE WORK ZONE AND PRESSURIZE THE SHOP WITH POSITIVE AIR FLOW. THEN WITH A SLIGHTLY SMALLER EXHAUST FAN THE AIR WILL VENT TO THE PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE. THIS IS HOW ALL RESTAURANTS VENT THEIR KITCHENS.

    HOPE THIS HELPS!


    IC may have to play with that thanks for Idea
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    Quote Originally Posted by zippetmonster View Post
    ditch the rain cap, yea probably obstructing flow, seriously? here is a link to windows for trailers, you just cut a hole, get some screws and sealant and go for it. http://www.motionwindows.com/prod1800.php
    I cant ditch rain cap, or rain will come into my shop? Prol jsut need a diff style of rain cap.
    WOuld you do that to your car??? Believe Me I want to......And may be only option that will work. Just trying to avoid it if I can.
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    You can totally get on the roof without a ladder.. Park under a tree you can climb? Stack some shit? 2 picnic tables on top of each other?
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    Ok i know yall want me to jsut cut a hole in the camper. First I dont posses the tools to do that right. Ive been unable to find any shop that will even consider cutting the hole for me. Second Im pretty sure There may be a metal support beam goin acros the wall in front of my table that would obstruct a fan bein put in the wall right there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TlkQ View Post
    You can totally get on the roof without a ladder.. Park under a tree you can climb? Stack some shit? 2 picnic tables on top of each other?
    I like your enthusiasm !
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    Quote Originally Posted by zippetmonster View Post
    ditch the rain cap, yea probably obstructing flow, seriously? here is a link to windows for trailers, you just cut a hole, get some screws and sealant and go for it. http://www.motionwindows.com/prod1800.php


    The instalation instruction for these are to replace exsisting windows! not telling you how to cut a hole properly.
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    Default Re: smoke bomb test, I wanna hear your thoughts!!!

    Well if you cut the hole for a fan it'd more than likely be smaller than the hole for one of the windows. You could just enlarge the hole when it came time to sell the RV or whatever and install one of those windows in it's place
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